2015 NHL Draft Thread Full of Hope and Optimism

[Syckle78]

Yea, that's why i don't want to trade back. Much better chance of getting lucky and having someone really good land there than in the second. The system is flush with 2/3rd line/pairing prospects. We really really need to hit a couple home runs.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

One way or another, I think there will be a really good center or defenseman left for us at 19. I am pretty excited, to be honest

Check this out. #27 is Colin White. He had a huge U18 tournament, and this was probably his best game. As you'll see, this is against Canada, too.

https://vimeo.com/126006578

edit: and yeah, he beats J. Roy on goal #2 and then Chabot on goal #3.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Even trading back COULD be alright, with the depth there seems to be in this draft. But it's more of a gamble, IMO.

It almost seems like someone really good HAS to be left still at #19. If not a defenseman, than a forward. Or vice versa. If it goes heavy at one position, than someone has to slide at another. But the 19th best player in this draft should be really good.

yes.. but wings would actually have to manage to draft that that 19th best player.

 

[Frk It]

Check this out. #27 is Colin White. He had a huge U18 tournament, and this was probably his best game. As you'll see, this is against Canada, too.

https://vimeo.com/126006578

I'm familiar, pretty sweet stuff though. He's a guy I would absolutely take at 19, if some of the good D men I like are gone.

 

[Syckle78]

yes.. but wings would actually have to manage to draft that that 19th best player.

Well that should be the least of our worries. We've been doing really well drafting better players than their slot recently. Pretty sure Larkin and mantha would be taken much higher in redrafts. Same with bertuzzi, holmstrom and others.

 

[RedWingzz]

I'm familiar, pretty sweet stuff though. He's a guy I would absolutely take at 19, if some of the good D men I like are gone.

I personally would rather we reach a bit and grab a D as opposed to taking a better forward available at that point. The only exception I would make is for Konecny, but he will most likely be gone when we pick. I like his game.

 

[Frk It]

I personally would rather we reach a bit and grab a D as opposed to taking a better forward available at that point. The only exception I would make is for Konecny, but he will most likely be gone when we pick. I like his game.

I would extend that to Merkley or C White as well. But only if Roy, Kylington, Chabot are gone. If any of those 3 are there I take them.

I'd rather take Merkley or Whtie than dig into the next tier of defenseman, or I would rather trade back. You should never really "reach", ideally.

 

[BStinson]

I think either Chabot, Roy or Kylington will still be available. If Those 6 are gone, then Holland will trade down

Good list though agree with your order.

My blackhorse picks are:

D Veeti Vainino
D Jesper Lindgren
F John Dahlstrom
F Denis Guryanov
F Antti Kalapaudas
F Julius Nattinen
F Sebastian Aho
F Michael Spacek
F Jonne Tammela
F Roope Hintz
F Jens Looke

Do you have any scouting reports on John Dahlstrom?

 

[Sami]

Would you trade our 1st and Mantha for Provorov? I would. Or Am I overestimating Mantha's value?

 

[InjuredChoker]

Would you trade our 1st and Mantha for Provorov? I would. Or Am I overestimating Mantha's value?

depends on the # of pick mantha and #19 is traded..

 

[Sami]

depends on the # of pick mantha and #19 is traded..

If we were to do that trade, could our pick be somewhere 10-12 range?

 

[InjuredChoker]

If we were to do that trade, could our pick be somewhere 10-12 range?

if a team in that range likes mantha, i think it could. can't get into top 5 though, and probably not top 8 either. provorov is gone by #10, i think.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Eh, I wouldnt trade Mantha unless it was for a top 5 pick.

 

[Syckle78]

I wouldn't trade mantha and number 19 unless were getting a top 5 sure thing which no one is going to do. Too much gamble for one unproven player. I'll take my chances with two drafted wings prospects. Number 19 could be another Larkin calibre player.

 

[Tatar]

I wouldn't trade mantha and number 19 unless were getting a top 5 sure thing which no one is going to do. Too much gamble for one unproven player. I'll take my chances with two drafted wings prospects. Number 19 could be another Larkin calibre player.

This. 2015 class is really deep.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Me too after landing Mantha and Larkin in the same vicinity the last couple drafts. Really hope we don't trade back.

I don't think the players available at 19 will be so good that we absolutely have to take one with that pick. Sure we will have more options and could catch a faller, but everyone in that range has some warts and question marks. If you tell me five years from now that Dunn, Vande Sompel, Wotherspoon or Juulsen are better than Roy or Kylington, I won't be the slightest bit shocked.

Yes the draft is deep, but I think that depth really only extends for about 12 spots. Like most years, the guys in the back half of the first are pretty comparable to a good portion of the guys projected to go in the second round. People shouldn't expect the world from this draft just because some have labeled it strong.

 

[Syckle78]

My statement had nothing to do with the perceived strength of the draft, though. I would feel the same regardless of the draft of the draft year. My feelings on it are based on the Wings ability to draft and scout and not on the draft class. I would expect the wings to find a very good player at that slot regardless of the year. Well I would hope so anyway as it's the only thing they've been good at recently.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

If Detroit really, really, really liked someone in the 10-13 range and wanted to trade Mantha and their pick for him, I'd be cautiously optimistic. Detroit seldom moves up in the draft, so I'd be inclined to think that they are REALLY high on whomever.

 

[Run the Jewels]

If Detroit really, really, really liked someone in the 10-13 range and wanted to trade Mantha and their pick for him, I'd be cautiously optimistic. Detroit seldom moves up in the draft, so I'd be inclined to think that they are REALLY high on whomever.

Yeah, the concern is selling Mantha at a low point, but if you can get a guy you feel very confident is going to be a very good NHL'er then you make that trade and move up. I think we are due for a mini rebuild which corresponds nicely with Blashill getting familiar with coaching the NHL. If you can get a top 10ish pick this year and then bolster that with two more top 5-10 picks over the next two drafts then that might be all it takes to get the elite talent we cannot acquire any other way.

Then you open the new arena with a lot of excitement given the state of the roster, not "hey come out and see Pav and Z skate on the third line!!"

 

[Frk It]

http://thehockeywriters.com/noah-juulsen-the-next-ones-2015-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

http://thehockeywriters.com/noah-juulsen-the-next-ones-2015-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/

I think he is going to be a good one, especially as he adds more strength. I have no problems taking him at 19 but think we may also be able to land him on a small trade down.

 

[detredWINgs]

Eh, I wouldnt trade Mantha unless it was for a top 5 pick.

Since the context of the hypo is that you're trading up with Mantha and the 19th to get Provorov, you'd essentially be getting a top 5 pick. Provorov is absolutely a top 5 pick in almost any other draft.

 

[SirloinUB]

I wouldn't trade mantha and number 19 unless were getting a top 5 sure thing which no one is going to do. Too much gamble for one unproven player. I'll take my chances with two drafted wings prospects. Number 19 could be another Larkin calibre player.

Since the context of the hypo is that you're trading up with Mantha and the 19th to get Provorov, you'd essentially be getting a top 5 pick. Provorov is absolutely a top 5 pick in almost any other draft.

I wonder how high we could move by packaging Pulkinnen with our first.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

I wonder how high we could move by packaging Pulkinnen with our first.

Maybe 2-3 spots.

Probably not even that. Teams want to see him produce in the NHL.

 

[HolyJumpin40]

I'm not super familiar with the value of draft picks but would something like this work with Columbus? Would the Wings not do it?


19th overall

for

34th overall
38th overall


Or, maybe with NJD for the 36th and 41st?