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I'd like to see the Rangers offer Glencross a training camp invite. Earn his was go the roster.
Him or Bergenheim unless he signed somewhere.
I'd like to see the Rangers offer Glencross a training camp invite. Earn his was go the roster.
Ideal Rangers line-up for the post season.
Van Riemsdyk-Hayes-Nash
Kreider-Stepan-Miller
Etem/Buchnevich-Brassard-Zucc
Lindberg-Moore-Fast
Stalberg
McDonagh-Girardi
Yandle-Klein
Skjei-Boyle
Hank
Anti
Staal for JVR trade.
Forget about re-signing Yandle if his role is playing him in sheltered situations and on the PP. The trade is over and done with. Ride him and let him leave as a free agent. The Rangers have Skjei at $925,000 to be their 3rd pair D. Yandle has a $5.75M salary for this season. $5.25M cap hit. Skjei will not need much time in the AHL before he is ready NHL. He has already played two months of pro hockey. Those are two more months than McDonagh played when he turned pro in 2010.
If Staal has any input (and he will), if he even agrees to go, perhaps only because Skjei and maybe Yandle are taking too many mins, he won't go to TML. I'm seeing more Jets/Blues, who are strong on RD and a lefty for balance they'd welcome; or maybe Sens, 'cause Ottawa is closer to home. Other fits possible. Do not see Leafs as one.
I agree we will see Skjei here sooner than later.
Whether or not Yandle should go will depend upon what people would pay for him.
However, if he commands what conventional wisdom expects him to (comparable to what NY gave up for him at min), there is no justified basis in letting him go for nothing.
I don't care if he's the second coming of Bobby Orr.
I don't care if it helps win the Cup.
To have AN ONGOING chance to compete yearly, we need Yandle's value here with the team, either in terms of production as a player or what assets he brings in trade.
That perspective must dominate and override ...
Him or Bergenheim unless he signed somewhere.
Glencross was such a hot commodity not to long ago. Washington gave up a 2nd and a 3rd for him. He put up 35 points last year. I am kind of shocked he is still unsigned. Bergenheim on the other hand...
I think Glencross probably priced himself out of the initial rush, and I'd be surprised if he was interested in a one year deal. Hard for a team to justify given his age and durability issues. Not to mention his awful playoff performance.
Glencross was horrible last season. He turned the puck over in game 5 in OT. Fast makes a nice play getting the puck over to Stepan. Glencross comes back into the play and he does nothing. He runs over Mike Green. Doesn't take anyone. If you wanted to show kids in hockey camp what not to do,show them Glencross in game 5.
Glencross was horrible last season. He turned the puck over in game 5 in OT. Fast makes a nice play getting the puck over to Stepan. Glencross comes back into the play and he does nothing. He runs over Mike Green. Doesn't take anyone. If you wanted to show kids in hockey camp what not to do,show them Glencross in game 5.
One game defines a player? What do 60 do for Nash?
Some posters complain when no evidence is used to support an argument. RB does that and now he still gets crap for it? Is he supposed to give you highlights of every game that Glencross played last year and explain where it was he sucked each and every game?
I don't understand this train of thought?
Unless I misinterpreted what you were saying... I am saying that RB is providing evidence of why he thinks Glencross is terrible. I read your post as accusing him of defining a player based off one game. Maybe RB is right, Glencross really is terrible and that is why he still hasn't been signed yet?
Maybe my point was too subtle? I'm saying that fans, collectively, on this board will condemn a player from one game but are willing to say the jury is out on Nash and his underperformance in 60?
That doesn't make much sense to me. Neither does the logic that you can use one point in time to appraise a player. Way too small of a sample.
Sorry. I absolutely misinterpreted what you were saying there Rust.
It's a shame too, because maybe if they had rotated through a carousel of other defenseman instead, people would realize how good Lundqvist has been and how completely overrated this defense core has been since his arrival.
The sarcasm on these boards has really ruined this place. Yep continue to force everything into a confrontational uninviting zone.
But since were going there, did i say the defense was perfect? You quoted the post so where did you read that? Point it out for me. No maybe i'm sick of reading the constant extreme claiming our whole defense is overrated. Oh wait, if i do that then this is going to turn into the next three pages of a Girardi bashing which is so undeserving. You want to argue some of the contracts are tough to maintain in a cap world, fine. But the things that are said here, the opinions thrown out there make this place unbearable. Got it, henrik is so dominant that we should be icing a bunch of rookies/vets all on ELCs/league minimums and McDonagh. Thats it. Save all the money, Henrik doesnt need much in front of him. Ignore the flaws in his game, moments of weakness he has. Block out the beginning of last season when we had guys like Kostka lacing it up and the defense looked miserable.
If Staal has any input (and he will), if he even agrees to go, perhaps only because Skjei and maybe Yandle are taking too many mins, he won't go to TML. I'm seeing more Jets/Blues, who are strong on RD and a lefty for balance they'd welcome; or maybe Sens, 'cause Ottawa is closer to home. Other fits possible. Do not see Leafs as one.
I agree we will see Skjei here sooner than later.
Whether or not Yandle should go will depend upon what people would pay for him.
However, if he commands what conventional wisdom expects him to (comparable to what NY gave up for him at min), there is no justified basis in letting him go for nothing.
I don't care if he's the second coming of Bobby Orr.
I don't care if it helps win the Cup.
To have AN ONGOING chance to compete yearly, we need Yandle's value here with the team, either in terms of production as a player or what assets he brings in trade.
That perspective must dominate and override ...
How was my response inferring that my opinion was the be and end all? Nope I'm pretty sure it didn't come off that way unless you have a hard time with reading comprehension which seems to be the glaring issue on these boards over the past year. I have a hard time agreeing with this defense, as a whole, being "overrated" when it just came off a SCF and ECF appearance in back-to-back years. That is sheer incompetency as a fan to make such claims. Go ask Penguins fans if they would like to have pretty much everyone of our defenseman somewhere in their 6. Or how about Islander fans over guys like Hickey in their defense. It is ignorance really. Fans of other teams envy our defense and if you don't think so then i really don't know what to tell you. The Rangers did not make those runs solely on the back of Henrik. And no that is not me saying Henrik was bad before you respond with another post of misinterpretation. That is me saying it was a combination of quality defenseman and an all star goalie.
Also, NEVER once stated the defense was "perfect." Nope not once. I'd love to discuss the flaws in a guy like Girardi or Yandle or Boyle or any of them for that matter. But quite honestly I feel like I have to defend these guys because people like you just constantly BURY them as if they have no positive attributes. As if they are Michael Kostka. This isn't a discussion board, this isn't a roster building thread on how to "improve" the team. This is a bash fest of our own players, some like Girardi who have been with the organization for several years through deep playoff runs. How bad could these guys possibly be? You would think they would all be #5/6's on every other team after making these deep playoff runs. There is no loyalty in this fan base to the players. Hardly any. It is all about what is the next shiny new toy and how can we obtain it...and in the process we are going to ridicule and pick apart the player we want to get rid of to obtain that piece even though that player has offered us a lot over the years whether you want to believe it or not. Nope, sorry this is not a discussion.
I wish the "discussion" was yeah we have one bad contract too many on that defense and we kinda need to move it to manage the team. But that turns into a massive hanging of Girardi and Staal. It is unnecessary. And all the while the REALITY is, this team is set for training camp other than maybe a vet forward invite. Yet everyday, it turns into the same topic of conversation.
But hey just keep beating the , talking in circles. Much more productive during your summer days...which I am going to now continue to enjoy after taking a pit stop to see if there was anything worthwhile reading here. Silly me, just the same old white noise.
Not necessarily against the idea of bringing Glencross to training camp as a tryout but he probably wouldn't be my first choice. I think I'd look at Erik Cole before him. Cole is older but he's bigger, faster and stronger and still has a bit of a scoring touch. That guy has always been an excellent skater.
Anyway to add to the Glencross debate--he's not the same player he was a few years ago. He's more than a bit on the decline. I wouldn't want to put a lot of money on him. He might be able to fit as a 4th liner.
I'm not interested in Glencross personally, would rather get a Santorelli, or a Boyes.(If we got Santorelli, I would put Hayes at 2RW)
I 100% understand why the Caps are going to pass on CG, with the additions of Oshie and Williams and the emergence of Burakowsky it makes CG an un-needed piece.
The odd thing for me is why would the Flames let him go? Were they that rich at the forward position that they could afford to trade him without getting a body in return?
Or did they see this as a case where the game may be moving in a direction that doesn't lend itself very well to his set of skills.
And if that's the case, wouldn't he be a weaker version of Lee Stempniak?
Unless Glass is served his walking papers, I see no spot on this team for CG
I agree completely. Too many people come here too often just looking for Internet fights and it makes this site way less worthwhile.
People say you don't want "fun" - but, reading the same snide hyperbole over and over isn't "fun." Being dismissed when you try to question points that are made only with shallow hostility isn't fun either.
And this strawman that anyone who doesn't want to hear this garbage therefore doesn't want to discuss the team is beyond weak. There's a canyon of space between discussing the teams flaws and the kind of bs that makes up most posts here on any given day.
Maybe it's because it's summer. I hope so at least. I used to really enjoy this site.