2014 - 2015 Coyotes Roster Part 13

[kihekah19*]

Why are some posters contrarian on everything they could possibly be contrarian about? Worst kinda of people.

Ya..... Why would anyone want to voice their own opinion? The WORST!

 

[KG]

Fixing skating doesn't happen during season. It happens during the off-season and can take multiple off-seasons. Both Tavaras and Stamkos credit their breakout years to power skating, in Tavaras' case, he had 3 offseasons of elite power skating training.

 

[kihekah19*]

Fixing skating doesn't happen during season. It happens during the off-season and can take multiple off-seasons. Both Tavaras and Stamkos credit their breakout years to power skating, in Tavaras' case, he had 3 offseasons of elite power skating training.

They work with power skating coaches as needed throughout the season, it's why guys like Mark Ciacco are employed. Even if that was not the case.... the boy's had him plenty of off seasons.

 

[KG]

They can work during the season but the bulk of the progress happens during the off season. It's also why players have a tough time losing and gainig weight during the season.

But yeah, it's disconcerting his skating hasn't been addressed earlier or he hasn't shown progress.

 

[Jakey53]

1) Indeed, Stone was slow of foot, but had what it takes in all other aspects at his first camp and improved. Injuries? See Murphy!

2) Apparently he can't, let's face it you and I both KNOW he's had ample opportunity, just like everyone else SHOULD.

If Gormley was picked in the third round or higher, we wouldn't hear boo about him on these boards, but since he was picked high in the first round, everyone is talking from their heart and hoping he makes it. Management on the other hand couldn't care less where a player was drafted, it's all about performance.

 

[kihekah19*]

But yeah, it's disconcerting his skating hasn't been addressed earlier or he hasn't shown progress.

That's my point

 

[kihekah19*]

If Gormley was picked in the third round or higher, we wouldn't hear boo about him on these boards, but since he was picked high in the first round, everyone is talking from their heart and hoping he makes it. Management on the other hand couldn't care less where a player was drafted, it's all about performance.

Agreed

 

[hbk]

I don't think management has given up on Gormely. You can argue opportunity but right now Gormely is in the mix for the 5-6 slot and hasn't come close to securing the top 3 role that was envisioned when he was drafted. Is he likely frustrated and does he look at potentially using this contract to demand a one way deal and attempt to force a deal for a fresh start? I would say that is likely and given the market that's shaping up Maloney may be able to flip him for a better return than the usual struggling prospect for struggling prospect moves that are typically done when a prospect fails to meet expectations.

Honestly, the acquisition of Dahlbeck has created a situation where we could afford to move Gormely. That and the likely selection of Hanifin.

 

[Jakey53]

I don't think management has given up on Gormely. You can argue opportunity but right now Gormely is in the mix for the 5-6 slot and hasn't come close to securing the top 3 role that was envisioned when he was drafted. Is he likely frustrated and does he look at potentially using this contract to demand a one way deal and attempt to force a deal for a fresh start? I would say that is likely and given the market that's shaping up Maloney may be able to flip him for a better return than the usual struggling prospect for struggling prospect moves that are typically done when a prospect fails to meet expectations.

Honestly, the acquisition of Dahlbeck has created a situation where we could afford to move Gormely. That and the likely selection of Hanifin.

You could 100% correct.

 

[goyotes]

In all honesty, I would have played Gormley more after the trade deadline.

A coach's job is to put the players on the ice that give the team the best chance of winning (not that Tip has always done that, IMO). Gormley is clearly not one of those players (again, IMO).

You don't want to lose the room by continuing to play a rookie who has shown he is overmatched night after night. If I were the coach, I wouldn't be playing Gormley any more than he has been played (unless I am under orders to play him by the GM in order to prop up his trade value).

I personally think it is best for both Gormley and the organization that he get a chance on another team where his limitations aren't as obvious.

 

[goyotes]

If the Coyotes failed Gormley (not saying they did) then the failure was at the AHL level for not developing him over two years to be able to play at NHL speed, or adjust his game to compensate for what he lacks in speed and quickness.

I have never been impressed with our AHL coaching staff, and would love to see a change in Springfield next year.

 

[KG]

If the Coyotes failed Gormley (not saying they did) then the failure was at the AHL level for not developing him over two years to be able to play at NHL speed, or adjust his game to compensate for what he lacks in speed and quickness.

I have never been impressed with our AHL coaching staff, and would love to see a change in Springfield next year.

I agree completely. Portland just always seemed really underwhelming.

 

[Jakey53]

A coach's job is to put the players on the ice that give the team the best chance of winning (not that Tip has always done that, IMO). Gormley is clearly not one of those players (again, IMO).

You don't want to lose the room by continuing to play a rookie who has shown he is overmatched night after night. If I were the coach, I wouldn't be playing Gormley any more than he has been played (unless I am under orders to play him by the GM in order to prop up his trade value).

I personally think it is best for both Gormley and the organization that he get a chance on another team where his limitations aren't as obvious.

Your right and I agree. I guess I was just trying to please the posters that are big supporters of Gormley.

 

[Jakey53]

If the Coyotes failed Gormley (not saying they did) then the failure was at the AHL level for not developing him over two years to be able to play at NHL speed, or adjust his game to compensate for what he lacks in speed and quickness.

I have never been impressed with our AHL coaching staff, and would love to see a change in Springfield next year.

Yeah, not a fan of our AHL coaching staff, at all. That would be the only negative I have with DM.

 

[hbk]

Pirates have been very good this year. Prospects developing. Reider, Samuellson, (second half he put up good numbers), heck even the much milaigned Martinook has progressed.

 

[kihekah19*]

Your right and I agree. I guess I was just trying to please the posters that are big supporters of Gormley.

See that's always my big mistake..... bending over backward to sugar coat everything, so as to please everyone and not create any hard feelings.

 

[Jakey53]

See that's always my big mistake..... bending over backward to sugar coat everything, so as to please everyone and not create any hard feelings.

Usually I'm not like that, but I feel sorry for the Gormley supporters, but I guess if they can't see the forest for the trees it's not my fault.

 

[Jakey53]

See that's always my big mistake..... bending over backward to sugar coat everything, so as to please everyone and not create any hard feelings.

Yeah, you do a lot of sugar coating don't ya.

 

[Jakey53]

Pirates have been very good this year. Prospects developing. Reider, Samuellson, (second half he put up good numbers), heck even the much milaigned Martinook has progressed.

You said it, ''this year''. I feel our farm team has under performed overall, over the years.

 

[hbk]

You said it, ''this year''. I feel our farm team has under performed overall, over the years.

I would point out that there was a serious lack of talent as well (see decision to fire Keith Gretzky as director of scouting). Can't squeeze blood from a stone. I'm lukewarm at best on Edwards but when you look at this year when he had something to work with their was progress.

 

[Jakey53]

I would point out that there was a serious lack of talent as well (see decision to fire Keith Gretzky as director of scouting). Can't squeeze blood from a stone. I'm lukewarm at best on Edwards but when you look at this year when he had something to work with their was progress.

True, as an organization we are in a much better position now, than we were just a couple of years ago.

 

[IPreferPi]

Well crap, the Canucks have extended Derek Dorsett to a 4-year deal. :-/

How about Steve Bernier or Erik Condra at 4RW?

EDIT: 2.65M/year for Dorsett. Holy ****.

 

[Mosby]

Well crap, the Canucks have extended Derek Dorsett to a 4-year deal. :-/

How about Steve Bernier or Erik Condra at 4RW?

Joel Ward?

 

[IPreferPi]

Joel Ward?

He works too. As would Mark Letestu.

 

[Joe Cooley]

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