Speculation: 20/21 Season Roster Talk @ Line Combos

[DarkandStormy]

I think they bite the bullet and buy out Wennberg before the window closes, though I wouldn't rule out a last minute trade with retention. You don't want that 900k hit dragging the team in years 4-6. I think Wennberg would be more valuable to some clubs other than the Jackets that need a defensive 3C. Not $4.9m valuable in any case.

$900k is a rounding error considering the $ you save not paying him $4.9m the next three years. It's also only $442k for 3 years, then $892k the three years after that since he's younger than 26.

You absolutely do it if you can't find a team to dump him to for, like, a 6th rounder.

 

[DarkandStormy]

We can’t even move Wennberg for a pick ?

Flat cap, no gate revenue for awhile - what kind of team wants to spend a middle-to-late round pick to pay Wennberg $4.9m/year for three more years?

 

[majormajor]

$900k is a rounding error considering the $ you save not paying him $4.9m the next three years. It's also only $442k for 3 years, then $892k the three years after that since he's younger than 26.

You absolutely do it if you can't find a team to dump him to for, like, a 6th rounder.

I'm not arguing against a buyout, but we'd be paying in total 33% of his salary and that is not a rounding error. I was thinking it might be better to retain $1.25m for three years than to pay Wennberg in total $5m to play for a different team.

If I'm Sakic I want a player like Wennberg at 3C, but I'm also willing to wait and hope to get him as a cheap post-buyout UFA rather than acquiring him in a retained salary trade. Especially now that this news is out.

 

[Toe Pick]

I think this Wennberg buyout news was intentionally leaked to try to drum up interest.

Sure, they might buy him out but then teams are competing against 30 other teams to sign him. Jarmo could be saying how about you work with us on a trade with some retention involved and we'll guarantee you get this guy for 3 years for say, a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick.

Of course the problem with that strategy is teams will likely call his bluff and take their chances. In that case, they buy him out and move on.

 

[thebus88]

Is Wenny really worth buyout? No one wants him for anything? Btw i love this thread coming alive

We can’t even move Wennberg for a pick ?

All you guys and the NHL GM’s are HATERS!!!

MODS!!??

 

[thebus88]

Are they available?

We need to also know if they will commit to the city of Columbu...

 

[thebus88]

I think this Wennberg buyout news was intentionally leaked to try to drum up interest.

Sure, they might buy him out but then teams are competing against 30 other teams to sign him.

You might be right about this.

And forget “30 other teams”, with Wenny you should throw in Europe and Russia.

Or really, only a few NHL teams if were honest.

2020 Offseason: The Wennberg Sweepstakes

 

[koteka]

Doesn’t the NHL have to change some rule for the 1/3 buyout to happen due to the dates?

The NHLPA won’t let the buyout happen unless they get some other concession from the NHL. The NHL won’t give anything up to the union so 1 team can save a few million.

But Portzline gonna Portzline.

 

[majormajor]

Doesn’t the NHL have to change some rule for the 1/3 buyout to happen due to the dates?

The NHLPA won’t let the buyout happen unless they get some other concession from the NHL. The NHL won’t give anything up to the union so 1 team can save a few million.

But Portzline gonna Portzline.

Portzline clarified that they are using the age as of June, as if this buyout window is still happening in June. What do you mean Portzline gonna Portzline? He did the research and presented it. I guess that's what it means.

 

[koteka]

What do you mean Portzline gonna Portzline?

Didn’t read the article because I don’t have any interest in paying for what the Athletic offers. But I would define Portzlining as writing an article about the CBJ like you have inside knowledge as to what they are considering doing even though you don’t.

 

[majormajor]

Didn’t read the article because I don’t have any interest in paying for what the Athletic offers. But I would define Portzlining as writing an article about the CBJ like you have inside knowledge as to what they are considering doing even though you don’t.

Okay, I've seen him do that plenty of times. It's annoying. He's not doing that here and I don't know how you'd know that if you're not reading him.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[ViD]

So, essentially Laine

 

[Finner]

Okay so we are getting some big name. 90% sure its a winger and Laine is on the rumours, i want to put my spoon in this soup. Jaden Schwartz from St.Louis. One of Jarmo's discovery and god Jarmo likes that guy. Schwartz is much cheaper than Laine so Z/Jones/PLD stays untouchable. But still Schwartz is update for offence.

Schwartz - PLD - Bjorky


Okay i could go with that 1st line but
still second like looks too thin for contender material. 2big trades and MG from free agenzy.

Schwartz - PLD - Laine

Cam - MG - Bjork

Nyquist - Grigorenko - Foudy

Foligno - Nash - Jenner

Jones - ?? ( if Laine costs Zach?

Savard - Gavrikov

Peeke - Kukan


Trade pieces

Zach
Tex
Andy
Murray
Wenny
Stenlund
VV

 

[CBJWerenski8]

So, essentially Laine

Not necessarily.

 

[stevo61]

Okay so we are getting some big name. 90% sure its a winger and Laine is on the rumours, i want to put my spoon in this soup. Jaden Schwartz from St.Louis. One of Jarmo's discovery and god Jarmo likes that guy. Schwartz is much cheaper than Laine so Z/Jones/PLD stays untouchable. But still Schwartz is update for offence.

Schwartz - PLD - Bjorky


Okay i could go with that 1st line but
still second like looks too thin for contender material. 2big trades and MG from free agenzy.

Schwartz - PLD - Laine

Cam - MG - Bjork

Nyquist - Grigorenko - Foudy

Foligno - Nash - Jenner

Jones - ?? ( if Laine costs Zach?

Savard - Gavrikov

Peeke - Kukan


Trade pieces

Zach
Tex
Andy
Murray
Wenny
Stenlund
VV

We fix our poor center depth with 2 players who have shown no ability to be NHL centers? Makes sense. Also willing to bet Werenski is in a CBJ sweater next year

 

[hardkorejackets]

Doesn’t the NHL have to change some rule for the 1/3 buyout to happen due to the dates?

The NHLPA won’t let the buyout happen unless they get some other concession from the NHL. The NHL won’t give anything up to the union so 1 team can save a few million.

But Portzline gonna Portzline.

It's all in the MOU released by the NHL and NHLPA in July. You can read it for yourself on the NHL Player's Association Website. It's really not that hard to do the research yourself either.

 

[punk_o_holic]

Not a rumor but a suggestion by Eric Duhatschek but would you guys do Jack Roslovic for Ryan Murray(20% retained)? He said Columbus has enough grit up front but need more skill. Winnipeg needs D and even if it's 1 year rental, it's to see if he's a fit and then try to sign him.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Not a rumor but a suggestion by Eric Duhatschek but would you guys do Jack Roslovic for Ryan Murray(20% retained)? He said Columbus has enough grit up front but need more skill. Winnipeg needs D and even if it's 1 year rental, it's to see if he's a fit and then try to sign him.

I would not do that deal.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Not a rumor but a suggestion by Eric Duhatschek but would you guys do Jack Roslovic for Ryan Murray(20% retained)? He said Columbus has enough grit up front but need more skill. Winnipeg needs D and even if it's 1 year rental, it's to see if he's a fit and then try to sign him.

I think it’s be great to have Ros here, but he’d have to become what was hoped instead of what he is for him to add to the skill up front for the Jackets. Murray, despite being a regular on IR, is more valuable.

Edit: lol, or what CBJW posted.

 

[MoeBartoli]

Not a rumor but a suggestion by Eric Duhatschek but would you guys do Jack Roslovic for Ryan Murray(20% retained)? He said Columbus has enough grit up front but need more skill. Winnipeg needs D and even if it's 1 year rental, it's to see if he's a fit and then try to sign him.

In my eyes Roslovic is a 3rd line guy and not a top tier one at that. Adding another bottom 6 player Isn’t that appealing as we have enough of them now - it’s just that some of them are currently playing top 6 roles.

 

[majormajor]

Not a rumor but a suggestion by Eric Duhatschek but would you guys do Jack Roslovic for Ryan Murray(20% retained)? He said Columbus has enough grit up front but need more skill. Winnipeg needs D and even if it's 1 year rental, it's to see if he's a fit and then try to sign him.

I say the value is about right, but I'm skeptical of the fit. The Jets gave Roslovic a long look at 2C this year and he didn't elevate his game to fit the job. And we're not short on 3C's.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Not a rumor but a suggestion by Eric Duhatschek but would you guys do Jack Roslovic for Ryan Murray(20% retained)? He said Columbus has enough grit up front but need more skill. Winnipeg needs D and even if it's 1 year rental, it's to see if he's a fit and then try to sign him.

I would do it in a heart beat. Murray is going to struggle to stay healthy and in the lineup until the time comes where a team won't take chances on him any more or he finally decides to hang it up. I can't see Winnipeg doing it unless they completely ignore medical history.

 

[Toe Pick]

Not a rumor but a suggestion by Eric Duhatschek but would you guys do Jack Roslovic for Ryan Murray(20% retained)?

Absolutely.

 

[cslebn]

I do Nutivaara not Murray.