Speculation: ‘20-21 Trade/Free Agency Thread Part II

[Leonardo87]

Can we trade Heinen back to Boston for Debrusk? Long shot? Yeah I know lol.

 

[gilfaizon]

I think Heinen would be a very good 3rd liner if we could ever fill the top 2 lines. This team can't operate with a shutdown line and i'd prefer us to go back to a Boudreau system with 4 lines always coming at you. Need the personnel first though.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Safe to say Heinen won’t be in tonight.

 

[sasha barkov]

Lol I called Heinen for Virtanen a few weeks ago. Essentially Ritchie for Virtanen

 

[JabbaJabba]

Losing Heinen for Virtanen wouldn't really bother me. I just don't think this move would make Anaheim any better. Year ago they gave away one disappointing powerforward and now they would be acquiring a similar guy. It's not going to make a difference.

 

[GunnarStahl]

Honestly I’d rather them trade Heinen for a late second or something rather than Virtanen

 

[Leonardo87]

Losing Heinen for Virtanen wouldn't really bother me. I just don't think this move would make Anaheim any better. Year ago they gave away one disappointing powerforward and now they would be acquiring a similar guy. It's not going to make a difference.

its just one of those lateral moves that makes the GM think that a change of scenery may help a player perform better or match up better with new line-mates. Really not losing much with Heinen. If Bob can get a pick also attached, then maybe could be a very good trade.

 

[gilfaizon]

Honestly I’d rather them trade Heinen for a late second or something rather than Virtanen

I think they would have done a deal for a 2nd if they could get one. Teams aren't willing to take on money this year whatsoever. Also, I don't think Heinen is worth a 2nd.

 

[GunnarStahl]

I think they would have done a deal for a 2nd if they could get one. Teams aren't willing to take on money this year whatsoever. Also, I don't think Heinen is worth a 2nd.

I think if you retained a bit someone would bite for a pick past the 50s. hell Stepan got the Yotes a mid second with no retention. Plus Heinen has a bit of team control as well.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Plot thickens

 

[The Duck Knight]

I'd guess that means Baertschi + Virtanen for Heinen.

 

[duxfan1101]

I'd guess that means Baertschi + Virtanen for Heinen.

So we add double the cap AND give up the best player?

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Plot thickens

I kind of wondered if this wouldn't be 1 for 1. If it was gonna be that surely it would've been done.

But I'm not sure what this looks like. Milano and Larsson make a combined $3.1 next year but that would at the very least mean Baertschi and even then I'm not sure if it does. And then it's probably gotta get bigger to account for giving up those two and taking on Sven.

This is interesting, that kind of indicates it could be dead.

 

[Paul4587]

Ritchie had low iq when he was playing for us. Makes dumbass penalties and turns the puck over without doing much of anything

Being undisciplined is not the same as having a low IQ. Ritchies IQ in terms of decision making with the puck, vision and making the right decision was generally very good. Him taking dumb penalties doesn’t take that away from him.

 

[ReptilianQuack]

Canucks Value Virtanen higher than Heinen, (fair enough, even if Heinen is a good 2 way) but we also dont want the added Salary for the extra year. Thats the hold up. Who else goes..
Are we into Milano+Heinen for Virtanen+3rd? Territory?

 

[Petey O]

How is Heinen defensively?

 

[GunnarStahl]

How is Heinen defensively?

Solid, can help on PK

 

[ReptilianQuack]

Hes way better than Virtanen defensively imo.
Canucks probably want D help though. That makes the trade way different.

 

[Static]

We have tons of money coming off the books next year and are worried about adding a million in salary. Ownership certainly pays attention to one thing, at least.

 

[Petey O]

Solid, can help on PK

This trade makes perfect sense for the Canucks, then. I'm not sure it'd be good for the Ducks unless you want to take the chance that Virtanen can return to his ~40 point pace, because he does struggle defensively and with intensity. Especially in Green's system.

 

[GunnarStahl]

This trade makes perfect sense for the Canucks, then. I'm not sure it'd be good for the Ducks unless you want to take the chance that Virtanen can return to his ~40 point pace, because he does struggle defensively and with intensity. Especially in Green's system.

The Nucks are my second favorite team so ive watched a fair bit of Virtanen and I think he would be even worse in the Ducks system, defensively and offensively, I just don’t see who he’s have chemistry with or where he’d fit in

 

[dracom]

We have tons of money coming off the books next year and are worried about adding a million in salary. Ownership certainly pays attention to one thing, at least.

they could save a bunch of money if they fired Murray and his staff, just saying...

 

[ReptilianQuack]

The deal really doesnt make sense for us in many ways. Like 9/10 ways it doesnt. The 10th being an Offensive upside.

The Variables really make this complicated. No wonder its not done.

 

[Static]

they could save a bunch of money if they fired Murray and his staff, just saying...

They already started down this road. Management and coaching salaries have been reduced 25%. Susan has her eye on some nice art for the attic.

 

[Static]

As an aside, ownership is getting wired $20 million in the next month from seattle. Keep that in mind if we continue to nickel and dime.