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IF he becomes a 2C, I will value him higher. But I also think both Werenski and Provorov can end up as #1 D-men, and that is likely to happen at the same time as Nylander getting his shot at 2C thanks to the Leafs C depth. And at that time, both Provorov and Werenski will be nearly untouchable.
You have one superstar. The American. The Canadian and Swede will “just” be stars.
thanks for the thought, but that obviously isn't gonna happen. 1 trade in the summer of 2016 doesn't dictate the market. The leafs D group now is also significantly better than the oilers were at that time, especially considering Klefbom wasn't where he is now (Sekera, Nurse,Davidson,Klefbom,Fayne,Gryba vs Rielly,Zaitsev,Gardiner,Hainsey,Carrick,Borgman)That conclusion isn't legit. One team could be over-valuing their player significantly. For what its worth, I think the Leafs might have to eventually do a Hall/Larsson type deal to go over the top using Nylander or Marner...
I'd do Werenski in a heartbeat, Provorov not so much. he is significantly behind WerenskiThis makes me chuckle inside. I don't think you'd get either player from their respective teams.
The Canucks have two former superstars, and no current superstars.so by that logic the canucks have 0 and arent gonna get a superstar unless they nab dahlin?
Since your reading skills aren't nearly as polished and sharp as you seem to think I'll post your exact quote below.
Why would I or anyone else start a poll based on a premise or claim we didn't make? I know that concept is hard for you to understand, but the point still stands. Talk about jumping to conclusions and getting overly defensive.
Go ahead quote me saying Draisaitl>Matthews, bud.
Ya I didn't think so.
Boy we don't want to get to crazy and try and get Letestu for Nylander! I just sure hope you guys are able to see it in yourselves to give us at least a 3rd for him!If Edmonton made an offer for Nylander I'm pretty sure it would be an underpayment.
It would not involve Bear, Jones, Nurse, Benning, Klefbom, Larsson or Sekera.
It would also not involve McDavid, Drai, Lucic, Maroon, Puljujarvi, Kassian, Letesnu or Hopkins.
Don't think I have to say that Talbot wouldn't be involved, but there I said it!
Don't care to read whatever else you guys are fighting about, but Drai is not = Matthews.
I'd do Werenski in a heartbeat, Provorov not so much. he is significantly behind Werenski
I would trade Nylander for Werenski in a heartbeat....And we wouldn't trade Nylander for either, so clearly it's pretty close and comes down to need / fit.
I would probably trade Marner for either though.
Thanks for the crystal ball analysis Benning. But I prefer to deal with what's right in front of me.You have one superstar. The American. The Canadian and Swede will “just” be stars.
This makes me chuckle inside. I don't think you'd get either player from their respective teams.
You have one superstar. The American. The Canadian and Swede will “just” be stars.
I would trade Nylander for Werenski in a heartbeat....
Lol...ya, it's wrong....sure. If Willy becomes a very good center, then it becomes close...but right now, i value the top pair Werenski higher than the top winger Nylander.Well that's your perogitive. It's wrong, but you can say whatever you'd like.
How is this thread still open?
Lol...ya, it's wrong....sure. If Willy becomes a very good center, then it becomes close...but right now, i value the top pair Werenski higher than the top winger Nylander.
Good post. Nice to see a little humbleness in this thread rather than some of the homer posts we were seeing. Willy is a great player, but until he either proves he can be an ~ ppg winger or can play at a #1C level, then he doesn't have the value that some people think. There's just very little premise that a winger (which Nylander is at this point in his career) can return a high quality #1 type Dman, which Werenski is on the verge of becoming.Lol...ya, it's wrong....sure. If Willy becomes a very good center, then it becomes close...but right now, i value the top pair Werenski higher than the top winger Nylander.
The typical underrating of Leafs players begins.
No where did I say Nylander wasn't good.
The typical leafs persecution complex begins.
Boy we don't want to get to crazy and try and get Letestu for Nylander! I just sure hope you guys are able to see it in yourselves to give us at least a 3rd for him!
Good post. Nice to see a little humbleness in this thread rather than some of the homer posts we were seeing. Willy is a great player, but until he either proves he can be an ~ ppg winger or can play at a #1C level, then he doesn't have the value that some people think. There's just very little premise that a winger (which Nylander is at this point in his career) can return a high quality #1 type Dman, which Werenski is on the verge of becoming.
You contradicted yourself pretty badly there my man.Good post. Nice to see a little humbleness in this thread rather than some of the homer posts we were seeing. Willy is a great player, but until he either proves he can be an ~ ppg winger or can play at a #1C level, then he doesn't have the value that some people think. There's just very little premise that a winger (which Nylander is at this point in his career) can return a high quality #1 type Dman, which Werenski is on the verge of becoming.
Good post. Nice to see a little humbleness in this thread rather than some of the homer posts we were seeing. Willy is a great player, but until he either proves he can be an ~ ppg winger or can play at a #1C level, then he doesn't have the value that some people think. There's just very little premise that a winger (which Nylander is at this point in his career) can return a high quality #1 type Dman, which Werenski is on the verge of becoming.