Who should we get rid of and who should we get?

[101st_fan]

Mike Ribeiro bought out he had 47 points last year. 15 mil let him walk. Suprise

http://arizonasports.com/43/1745713/Arizona-Coyotes-buy-out-Mike-Ribeiros-contract

So with Ribs and Richards on the market it's possible to start reuniting the Stars of about four years ago.

 

[Paranoid Android]

We can pretty much guarantee Poile has no interest in Ribeiro (and he's right IMO)

 

[ThirdManIn]

Phoenix cited personal issues that led to Ribs being bought out. They said he is "seeking help" so I'm not sure what kind of issues those would be. No use speculating, but I wanted to pass along what I read elsewhere.

edit: I see NoNeck beat me to it.

 

[INDhockeyfan]

Ribero has problems that Poile won't take any chances on and he shouldn't. I doubt any team signs him right now.

 

[dubgeek]

Well, Eklund just quashed the Staal to NSH rumor:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/thread.php?thread_id=118232&forum_id=73

That pretty much makes it a done deal, now . I just wonder who they got DP to give up.

 

[PredsV82]

Ah, another pre-UFA season with people making dire conclusions based on snippets of random comments by Poile.

Did he give any indication of the feeding frenzy of grinders signings last year? I seem to recall everyone pulling out their hair because his pre July comments made it sound like we would stand pat/ not try hard for any free agents , which is basically what all of the Poile bashers assume every summer.

This summer, Poile has money to spend and a mandate from the owners.

Not every player will turn down more money to avoid Nashville. There is only so much cash and cap space out there.

I will be shocked if we don't add a significant UFA and make at least one significant trade by mid july

so you'll be disappointed in Poile if he doesn't?

Yes. Very.

Significant trade.... check.

Now to see what the UFA market holds

 

[BigFatCat999]

So....the Preds traded the nicest guy on the team for an a-hole who can score....

I'm mixed.

 

[I Will Son]

What a day for us!!

Neal trade was great

Add Spezza or Stastny and I'll be tempted to purchase season tickets

I wouldn't mind Iggy for a year

 

[Montross]

Significant trade.... check.

Now to see what the UFA market holds

Need a center for Neal.

 

[Dave is a killer]

So....the Preds traded the nicest guy on the team for an a-hole who can score....

I'm mixed.

5 words ... We upgraded our Top 6

 

[I Will Son]

5 words ... We upgraded our Top 6

Heavily

 

[GeauxPreds]

I'm so glad everyone got worked up in a tizzy about those Poile comments and automatically assumed he'd do nothing.

 

[Montross]

@craigcustance

'Poile says Preds have the budget to add a center in free agency for Neal.'




Poile, make me a believer!

 

[Teekko]

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 2m
Poile bullish on getting a C, said "we're going to have some good center ice men or we're going to find someone that can play with [Neal]"

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 2m
Added before that quote: "I get it that we don't have Malkin or Crosby."

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 57s
Poile when asked about the budget to get a big time center, maybe one from Colorado: "We will do whatever is necessary to be competitive"

 

[Infinite Jest]

Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl 38s
David Poile said now that the Preds have James Neal, their focus turns to acquiring a top-line C. He wants it sooner rather than later.

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 2m
Poile bullish on getting a C, said "we're going to have some good center ice men or we're going to find someone that can play with [Neal]"

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 2m
Added before that quote: "I get it that we don't have Malkin or Crosby."

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 57s
Poile when asked about the budget to get a big time center, maybe one from Colorado: "We will do whatever is necessary to be competitive"

The weird thing is that I actually believe Poile now. Neal is a bold move. Maybe the boldest he's made since Forsberg (the first one).

 

[TootooTrain]

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 2m
Poile bullish on getting a C, said "we're going to have some good center ice men or we're going to find someone that can play with [Neal]"

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 2m
Added before that quote: "I get it that we don't have Malkin or Crosby."

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 57s
Poile when asked about the budget to get a big time center, maybe one from Colorado: "We will do whatever is necessary to be competitive"

The center market sure is saturated right now so I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't cost an arm and a leg to get one. That said, the majority aren't in the upper tier. They're borderline 1's/2's but mostly 2/3's. Still, there's upgrades to be had.

 

[Armourboy]

I at least feel like he is actually gonna give it one hell of a try now. May turn out the same but there is at least some optimism.

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

The center market sure is saturated right now so I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't cost an arm and a leg to get one. That said, the majority aren't in the upper tier. They're borderline 1's/2's but mostly 2/3's. Still, there's upgrades to be had.

Let's use the Kesler deal as a benchmark:

Bonino+Sbisa+late 1st

Bonino is a promising but unproven young forward, Sbisa is a decent #4/5D that has pretty much topped off, and a late 1st is a late 1st.

IMO Wilson in the the area code of Bonino, Ellis is better than Sbisa, and we have plenty of things worth a late 1st.

Guys I'm looking at: E. Staal, Spezza (if he'll waive), Thornton (if he'll waive), Stastny (UFA), ROR, Skinner

Backup options: Roy (UFA), Sedin+Sedin (too expensive to acquire and old), Brad Richards (UFA), Mike Richards, Grabovski,

Worst case scenario: Ribiero, Lecavalier

 

[WartracePred]

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 2m
Poile bullish on getting a C, said "we're going to have some good center ice men or we're going to find someone that can play with [Neal]"

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 2m
Added before that quote: "I get it that we don't have Malkin or Crosby."

Kristopher Martel ‏@ThePredatorial 57s
Poile when asked about the budget to get a big time center, maybe one from Colorado: "We will do whatever is necessary to be competitive"

Sounds like Stastny may get a BIG raise... in Nashville.

 

[Enoch]

Poile stepped up and played ball today. Kudos to him. Bold move.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Gagner in EDM is my guess. I think stats has it too good in COL.

If only we could get spezza to come here, too bad we won't. Hemsky maybe though, good playmaking winger.

Basically we need to move Wilson for an upgrade.

 

[token grinder]

Let's use the Kesler deal as a benchmark:

Bonino+Sbisa+late 1st

Bonino is a promising but unproven young forward, Sbisa is a decent #4/5D that has pretty much topped off, and a late 1st is a late 1st.

IMO Wilson in the the area code of Bonino, Ellis is better than Sbisa, and we have plenty of things worth a late 1st.

Ryan Ellis is not a better defenceman than Sbisa. 1)totally different games. Sbisa can eat up 20 mins a night and hold his own. Can actually defend. Ellis is the better puck mover, but I would take Sbisa on a team all day every day.


In lieu of the Kesler deal, with SPezza and Kesler being comparable other than contract length, I think instead of Ekholm and a 1st, I would offer Ekholm and a 2nd or Ellis and a 3rd this and a 2nd next year for him. The return on Spezza won't be as good as the Kesler one was.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Ryan Ellis is not a better defenceman than Sbisa. 1)totally different games. Sbisa can eat up 20 mins a night and hold his own. Can actually defend. Ellis is the better puck mover, but I would take Sbisa on a team all day every day.

What? No, not a chance. Sbisa looked like he could have been what Josi is, perhaps with a more physical edge, but he has no consistency to his game and is mentally fragile. He was primed for a top 4 spot on the blueline a couple years back and has since been passed by Fowler, Lovejoy, Lindholm, and Vatanen. Absolutely regressed and I would be surprised if he manages to stick long-term at this point. Ellis is absolutely better than him.

 

[RCola88]

Ryan Ellis is not a better defenceman than Sbisa. 1)totally different games. Sbisa can eat up 20 mins a night and hold his own. Can actually defend. Ellis is the better puck mover, but I would take Sbisa on a team all day every day.


In lieu of the Kesler deal, with SPezza and Kesler being comparable other than contract length, I think instead of Ekholm and a 1st, I would offer Ekholm and a 2nd or Ellis and a 3rd this and a 2nd next year for him. The return on Spezza won't be as good as the Kesler one was.

If the return was Ellis + 3rd for Spezza the trade would have been completed already