Tyler Myers

[StronGeer]

http://www.tsn.ca/jets-taking-risk-by-bringing-in-myers-1.209396

USAGE! USAGE! USAGE, YOST! USAGE!

I'm done, I think he gets it.

 

[Romang67]

USAGE! USAGE! USAGE, YOST! USAGE!

I'm done, I think he gets it.

United States of America Greece and England?

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

http://www.tsn.ca/jets-taking-risk-by-bringing-in-myers-1.209396

Quality of Competition taken into account at all?

O zone? D zone?

 

[StronGeer]

Quality of Competition taken into account at all?

O zone? D zone?

Nope. That'd be... like... work.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

Nope. That'd be... like... work.

OR more cynically

That would detract from the point I'm trying to make

 

[StronGeer]

You mean TSN writers would dump on Winnipeg?

Say it ain't so!

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Quality of Competition taken into account at all?

O zone? D zone?

Nope. That'd be... like... work.

Yeah, it's a whole bunch of work:

Nice d-zone heavy deployment of Myers and Gorges, against the highest TOI opponents that the Sabres faced. Wow: that was a lot of work to gain a little bit of insight into why his stats in certain areas plummeted. I need to go get a beer now.

 

[StronGeer]

You mean TSN writers would dump on Winnipeg?

Say it ain't so!

Although, never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity

 

[ps241]

Loving this thread!!!

 

[StronGeer]

Yeah, it's a whole bunch of work:

*evidence*

Nice d-zone heavy deployment of Myers and Gorges, against the highest TOI opponents that the Sabres faced. Wow: that was a lot of work to gain a little bit of insight into why his stats in certain areas plummeted. I need to go get a beer now.

Yeah don't tire yourself out man. This isn't your job.

 

[allan5oh]

Yeah don't tire yourself out man. This isn't your job.

I promise you it took him less than a minute. So very hard.

 

[fmrdh]

Are teams calling the Jets inquiring about Myers? If so I wonder what Chevy says.

I've really liked his game so far.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Yeah don't tire yourself out man. This isn't your job.

Yeah, I'm sweatin'. I think I need another beer.

I promise you it took him less than a minute. So very hard.

Shhh! No one's supposed to know certain things are easy. There'd be no way for me to sneak in my scotch time.

 

[Romang67]

Hey, guys, Myers also has a Corsi of ~-29.5. Compare that to a much cheaper alternative in Rundblad who has a Corsi of ~18... We made a huge mistake!

Lazy stupid article is lazy and stupid. Sometimes I really understand why some people say that Corsi people don't watch the games and only look at numbers without context.

It's because of Travis Yost.

I maintain that it's impossible to say how good Myers is at the possession game because of his usage and team.

 

[allan5oh]

Shhh! No one's supposed to know certain things are easy. There'd be no way for me to sneak in my scotch time.

ah yes, a page from Montgomery "scotty" Scott.

 

[StronGeer]

Hey, guys, Myers also has a Corsi of ~-29.5. Compare that to a much cheaper alternative in Rundblad who has a Corsi of ~18... We made a huge mistake!

Lazy stupid article is lazy and stupid. Sometimes I really understand why some people say that Corsi people don't watch the games and only look at numbers without context.

It's because of Travis Yost.

I maintain that it's impossible to say how good Myers is at the possession game because of his usage and team.

Travis Yost:

Travis Yost joined TSN in 2014 as a hockey analytics writer contributing columns to TSN.ca and providing in-depth analysis on TSN Radio. Yost is a key part of the TSN Hockey Analytics team, the network’s go-to resource for compelling stat-based hockey analysis.

Using advanced stats such as Corsi, Fenwick, zone starts, and many more, Yost crunches the latest numbers from the NHL’s on-ice action to provide a unique perspective on the game.

Before joining the TSN Hockey Analytics team, Yost was a regular contributor to the Ottawa Citizen, The Sporting News, NHLNumbers.com and HockeyBuzz.com, earning him a reputation as one of game’s leading minds in advanced stats.

That's embarassing. Unless TSN is telling him to dumb his stuff down to get a wider reach, whatever he is making is too much.

Back on topic: Myers is tall hey guys?

 

[YWGinYYZ]

ah yes, a page from Montgomery "scotty" Scott.

 

[StronGeer]

Beam me up, Scotchy.

 

[garret9]

In Yost's defense, usage adjusted or dCorsi numbers still don't make Myers beautiful.

The point of his article still holds: there's a lot of unknowns with Myers and how much value in the trade the Jets gain will depend on how Myers adjusts to the Jets.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

Travis Yost:



That's embarassing. Unless TSN is telling him to dumb his stuff down to get a wider reach, whatever he is making is too much.

Back on topic: Myers is tall hey guys?

Realistic movie pitch.

 

[StronGeer]

In Yost's defense, usage adjusted or dCorsi numbers still don't make Myers beautiful.

The point of his article still holds: there's a lot of unknowns with Myers and how much value in the trade the Jets gain will depend on how Myers adjusts to the Jets.

The conclusion may be the same, but how you arrive there matters for how much weight the argument has.

 

[Flair Hay]

The conclusion may be the same, but how you arrive there matters for how much weight the argument has.

Birds of a **** feather

 

[BigZ65]

Birds of a **** feather

The Winds of **** is what we call "Lawless and Order" in my household.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

feel that randy?

**** winds a blowin, pretty soon a ****-i-cane will be all over you.

 

[Whileee]

In Yost's defense, usage adjusted or dCorsi numbers still don't make Myers beautiful.

The point of his article still holds: there's a lot of unknowns with Myers and how much value in the trade the Jets gain will depend on how Myers adjusts to the Jets.

Are those relative to the Sabres, or overall? I think it's really important that whenever these sorts of "advanced stats" are cited, there should be clarity about what adjustments have been made (or not made).

I agree that there are still a lot of unknowns about Myers. What I like is his penchant for taking possession and doing something positive with the puck. What I am less certain about is his defensive awareness and positioning, protecting zone entry, etc.