This is a Bad Hockey Team 2017-18
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ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
I'm gonna double post this..
Look at the job JD did putting together this CBJ roster. Speed, skill, grit, coaching and goaltending.
OUTSTANDING!!
Look at the job JD did putting together this CBJ roster. Speed, skill, grit, coaching and goaltending.
OUTSTANDING!!
Not a bad hockey team but not currently a good one either. These are the games you look back on when the playoffs are looming and you're 8 points out. Assuming we go on a tear at some point and are in the mix. So I'm not super down on them just yet but I don't really care all that much this year either. I think we're a bubble team. I hope we're more.
If not, well... we've got some decent pieces to build on on and relatively solid management. Should bounce back.
This message took like 5 minutes to write. Appreciate the effort!
If not, well... we've got some decent pieces to build on on and relatively solid management. Should bounce back.
This message took like 5 minutes to write. Appreciate the effort!
Pavel Buchnevich
Drury and Laviolette Must Go
What do you think about long-term contracts to UFA defensemen at 6.65 million and 4.35 million? That was a big part of the offseason, as well.
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Shady Brey
Should be fun watching a young devils team destroy Hank tonight. I'll be at the game to make sure I get a real dose of humiliation. Maybe this will be a wake up call? I'm expecting an old school beat down.
Like to see 10 games or so in before making a fair assessment. 1-4 is not good by any means, but in this game, a good week can put them back on track. It just seems that depth from last season is gone, do we really miss Derek Stepan that much?
When you play DD as your number 3C and Hayes is your 2C you bet that we do.
PlamsUnlimited
Big Church Bells
Shattenkirk has a short contract Brother. Smith is slightly more than I wanted him for but still fair
Yeah pretty much. I am hoping we can woo Taveras this off season. Feels like we need that franchise center to take it all home. Don't get me wrong love Mika but I have always seen him as a 2C borderline 1c or a 1Cb if that makes sense lol.
They don't need Tavares, they just need to keep their draft picks.
It was fine that they moved them when they had their window (no, that doesn't include the Eric Staal trade) but we're seeing the fall out from that now.
This team has the potential to be really bad, even if they get rid of the asshat coach. Lucky for them, its the right year to suck.
It was fine that they moved them when they had their window (no, that doesn't include the Eric Staal trade) but we're seeing the fall out from that now.
This team has the potential to be really bad, even if they get rid of the asshat coach. Lucky for them, its the right year to suck.
Chaels Arms
Formerly Lias Andersson
I'm going to separate my comments into expected awfulness and unexpected awfulness. Expected awfulness are weaknesses that any objective observer should have seen coming into this season, unexpected awfulness are flaws that hopefully will sort themselves out eventually or this team has no shot.
Expected awfulness:
1. A team that has perrennially gotten terrible defensive play from its forwards lost its two best defensive forwards and replaced them with... David Desharnais. Surprise, surprise: the team sucks defensively.
2. Marc Staal is still on the roster.
3. Kevin Hayes is not a #2 C. Hayes is now at the same point where Kreider was about a year ago - time to stop expecting more and just accept the player he is. Good enough to impress in short bursts, not good enough to rely on night in and night out.
4. Grabner getting chances that aren't going in. Regression is a *****.
5. Nash not contributing. I know he has a lot of fans on here but I've never seen a player supposedly do so much offensively and yet never have any of it show on the scoreboard.
6. Jimmy Vesey sucks. He's slow, nonphysical, doesn't shoot, can't pass, and has no intensity. He better pack on some pounds and hit the weight room or he may not stick in this league much longer. Matt Gilroy the forward version.
7. Kevin Shattenkirk is not a good defensive defenseman. We were warned about this by two separate fanbases. He is elite offensively. Keith Yandle 2.0 at a cheaper cost which actually wouldn't be a bad thing if not for #s 1 and 2 above and # 1 below.
Unexpected awfulness:
1. Ryan McDonagh lost the Girardi anchor and is playing terrible. I do not expect this to last but it's a major issue right now.
2. Is JT Miller still on the Rangers or did we trade him to Arizona for picks?
Expected awfulness:
1. A team that has perrennially gotten terrible defensive play from its forwards lost its two best defensive forwards and replaced them with... David Desharnais. Surprise, surprise: the team sucks defensively.
2. Marc Staal is still on the roster.
3. Kevin Hayes is not a #2 C. Hayes is now at the same point where Kreider was about a year ago - time to stop expecting more and just accept the player he is. Good enough to impress in short bursts, not good enough to rely on night in and night out.
4. Grabner getting chances that aren't going in. Regression is a *****.
5. Nash not contributing. I know he has a lot of fans on here but I've never seen a player supposedly do so much offensively and yet never have any of it show on the scoreboard.
6. Jimmy Vesey sucks. He's slow, nonphysical, doesn't shoot, can't pass, and has no intensity. He better pack on some pounds and hit the weight room or he may not stick in this league much longer. Matt Gilroy the forward version.
7. Kevin Shattenkirk is not a good defensive defenseman. We were warned about this by two separate fanbases. He is elite offensively. Keith Yandle 2.0 at a cheaper cost which actually wouldn't be a bad thing if not for #s 1 and 2 above and # 1 below.
Unexpected awfulness:
1. Ryan McDonagh lost the Girardi anchor and is playing terrible. I do not expect this to last but it's a major issue right now.
2. Is JT Miller still on the Rangers or did we trade him to Arizona for picks?
There were so many here that thought it was the other way around - G was dragging Mac down and the new pairing with Shat will do wonders.
Now they don't even play together. lol
Chaels Arms
Formerly Lias Andersson
How many of those has he made? It's not too many.
Not to mention that he HAS to be the one to move the puck out of his own end when Staal is out there since the latter is the worst at it in the league. Teams know this.
Saying that he's made some bad passes is fine, saying that hes been bad all together is something I can't get behind and saying that hes been bad in his own zone (which passing the puck has nothing to do with) is flat out incorrect.
Not to mention that he HAS to be the one to move the puck out of his own end when Staal is out there since the latter is the worst at it in the league. Teams know this.
Saying that he's made some bad passes is fine, saying that hes been bad all together is something I can't get behind and saying that hes been bad in his own zone (which passing the puck has nothing to do with) is flat out incorrect.
Pavel Buchnevich
Drury and Laviolette Must Go
Four years is short if you are contending those four years. If you are back to rebuilding after year 1, its not a good idea. We'll see what happens, I thought Gorton took the wrong strategy with these contracts, and I'm not sure I particularly want 11.1M on the cap in a year for two defensemen who are win now (and overpriced win now players) for a team that might be rebuilding.
Gordon Bombay
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Call me crazy here but if we can trade Holden for a C and get Fast back I really don't think this is a bad roster. The coach is the bigger problem if you ask me.
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