The only fact on this list of facts is three. The rest is subjective opinion. Some of it is pretty ridiculous like four since that's not what the same page report actually says. The other thing is that what you find reasonable for the Sharks to take what they can get was not something you specifically ever offered. You offered the Iginla deal which was a 1st and two college prospects that were not B prospects. I'm not worried about the Sharks' reputation. They're a bad team under new management needing a long time to rebuild. They've already moved three players who had requested a trade under this management. It's not a matter of will to get something done to move a player that wants to go elsewhere. It's about not getting ripped off in the process. A new GM like Grier has already traded two of his stars. If you're going to offer a shit deal like the Iginla deal for Karlsson while asking them to retain and eat cap dumps, you can kick rocks and move on but the reality is that Pittsburgh does need a player like Karlsson if they hope to get back into the playoffs next year that they missed. That's probably worth a lot more to their newly hired GM and their established stars to get done than adding a second first round pick that would be protected anyway.
You just need to admit that this game you're playing is largely bullshit posturing on your end. You just want to get the biggest bargain you can but that only goes so far if/when it actually gets completed. You're going to have to pay a lot more than a 1st and a couple nobodies like Pittsburgh did for Iginla. Grier's done enough for me to have confidence in him being willing to trade his stars and be able to take less to get it done as well but there's a limit to that.
Again, you just don't know what you're talking about.
Ok.
Since you seem to think I have no idea what I’m talking about when it comes to the behind the scenes business of hockey, let’s play a little game. I’ll pose 3 questions to you, and tell you my answer from all 3, and we will compare answers.
1) Have you ever played, in the show/ have any friends or even acquaintances who have?
2) Have you ever coached, scouted, or was in management in the NHL, or personally know anyone who is/was?
3) Have you ever worked with or are friends/acquaintances with an agent who represents players?
So…. My answer is yes to all 3. How many can you legitimately say yes to?
I’m simply trying to have a discussion about how the business of hockey works behind the scenes, and give you a little insight as to how each side is viewing this. Also, I’m trying to give you a glimpse as to how important EKs control of the situation actually is.
This league is a tough business for the every day player, but a guy like EK is going to push the buttons to get what HE wants. That is why the NMC and such are such a big thing to gain control for themselves. You have guys who are forced to sign entry level contracts…. Take Bedard for example. Look at what he is making. What if he takes a really bad hit and can’t play, he never gets his big deal…. That’s why when they reach the stage of being able to get control, they sieze it.
I will say that I don’t know EK personally, so he may have some indifference on where he goes, but from the few teams that have had said they have interest, Pittsburgh is apparently the destination of choice. I’m not friends with Dubas so I can’t confirm, but if true, I’m sure he knows as well.
So, once again, for those who are a little slow…. Every single fact I posted prior still stands no matter if it’s what you want to hear or not!
