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[Soundwave]

Think there'd be any interest in Landeskog for Eberle?

Landeskog is having a bad season, but I think he's a better fit for the team long term.


Landeskog McDavid Puljujarvi
Lucic Draisaitl Maroon

Longer term?

 

[McFlyingV]

Think there'd be any interest in Landeskog for Eberle?

Landeskog is having a bad season, but I think he's a better fit for the team long term.


Landeskog McDavid Puljujarvi
Lucic Draisaitl Maroon

Longer term?

I don't think Colorado would have any interest in that.

 

[russianoiler]

Think there'd be any interest in Landeskog for Eberle?

Landeskog is having a bad season, but I think he's a better fit for the team long term.


Landeskog McDavid Puljujarvi
Lucic Draisaitl Maroon

Longer term?

i hope Eberle+ (maybe 1rd 2017 or Davidson) for Duchene

 

[oilers89]

i really don't think we are far off of having making a real strong run. I want to add without going to crazy on the future. You never know if we will be back in this spot.
Vanek, stempniak, iginla, hanzel could all be decent options for rentals.
Maybe try and go after colin Wilson/craig smith and ryan ellis for this year and the future?
the silly expansion draft makes things difficult though

 

[Goulet17]

i hope Eberle+ (maybe 1rd 2017 or Davidson) for Duchene

Colorado would not touch Eberle. He is older than both Duchene and Landeskog and Sakic issued comments on Friday indicating that the Avs want to get younger. Eberle is also represented by Newport and is only signed for two more years after this. He would essentially be a rental player for Colorado as their relationship with Newport is toxic. Newport was the agency for ROR and for Barrie. I am sure they would rather take their chances resigning Duchene than taking on Eberle, and Duchene is a more valuable player due to his center position and faceoff ability.

 

[Up the Irons]

i hope Eberle+ (maybe 1rd 2017 or Davidson) for Duchene

if we want Duchene it will probably cost JP; might have to thro in a Caleb Jones (who is now a very intriguing prospect). but, that would interesting tho. JP for Lando? I probably balk at that.


there is potential for a blockbuster deal with the Avs. something built around Duchene + Barrie for JP + Klefbom.

 

[VainGretzky]

if we want Duchene it will probably cost JP; might have to thro in a Caleb Jones (who is now a very intriguing prospect). but, that would interesting tho. JP for Lando? I probably balk at that.


there is potential for a blockbuster deal with the Avs. something built around Duchene + Barrie for JP + Klefbom.

No thx

 

[joestevens29]

I don't think Colorado would have any interest in that.

Only way I see it is if we are adding and not something small either. COL isn't in the market to get older and at more money.

 

[joestevens29]

Look at the whole deal though. Say we find 2 guys this summer who are solid middle 6 players who combine for a salary of 6m, and for cap reasons we need to move Eberle out to make it work. You're trading Eberle for 2 players that are a better fit, plus whatever we get for him.

In that case, it isn't a low return when you factor the cap space in too.

Maybe or you are trading away a better player that plays harder minutes that allows those lessor players to play their game. Now all you are left with guys playing above their head and not being a better fit as you thought they would be.

 

[Aceboogie]

Why are people do eager to help out Colorado lol?

 

[Aceboogie]

Landeskog continues to regress and has for a couple years. Dude is marginally above Pouliot from last year

 

[tv14]

Thinking about our back-up situation and a random thought popped into my head.

How much do you think Darling would cost? We NEED a legit back-up to allow Talbot some rest down the stretch so he can be fresh and at his best the rest of the way.

We can then sign Darling to an extension, at which point he would be the EASY pick for LV in the expansion draft, allowing us to keep some of our current guys. While also getting a good few months out of him.

Obviously all depends on the price for Darling (and IF the Hawks would trade him), to decide if it at all would be worth it. I really hope GM's (especially Chia) can show their creative side as expansion draft nears.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Thinking about our back-up situation and a random thought popped into my head.

How much do you think Darling would cost? We NEED a legit back-up to allow Talbot some rest down the stretch so he can be fresh and at his best the rest of the way.

We can then sign Darling to an extension, at which point he would be the EASY pick for LV in the expansion draft, allowing us to keep some of our current guys. While also getting a good few months out of him.

Obviously all depends on the price for Darling (and IF the Hawks would trade him), to decide if it at all would be worth it. I really hope GM's (especially Chia) can show their creative side as expansion draft nears.

Why does Chicago do this? They've needed Darling for 18 games this season so far.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Thinking about our back-up situation and a random thought popped into my head.

How much do you think Darling would cost? We NEED a legit back-up to allow Talbot some rest down the stretch so he can be fresh and at his best the rest of the way.

We can then sign Darling to an extension, at which point he would be the EASY pick for LV in the expansion draft, allowing us to keep some of our current guys. While also getting a good few months out of him.

Obviously all depends on the price for Darling (and IF the Hawks would trade him), to decide if it at all would be worth it. I really hope GM's (especially Chia) can show their creative side as expansion draft nears.

I think it will be interesting to see what happens if the Oilers make the playoffs and Talbot falters.

You're gonna see the ol' rookie goalie for a playoff run maneuver.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Thinking about our back-up situation and a random thought popped into my head.

How much do you think Darling would cost? We NEED a legit back-up to allow Talbot some rest down the stretch so he can be fresh and at his best the rest of the way.

We can then sign Darling to an extension, at which point he would be the EASY pick for LV in the expansion draft, allowing us to keep some of our current guys. While also getting a good few months out of him.

Obviously all depends on the price for Darling (and IF the Hawks would trade him), to decide if it at all would be worth it. I really hope GM's (especially Chia) can show their creative side as expansion draft nears.

I'm guessing we are going to trade Fayne for an overpriced goalie with similar term and to incentivize it for the other team we will be taking on more salary.

 

[tjcurrie]

Coming in here leaving my bias at the door.

I'm far from a Jordan Eberle fan, but looking at the Dallas Stars' RW depth:

Patrick Eaves - having a career year, expring contract, 33 in May, like to keep him
Patrick Sharp LW/RW - expiring contract, return is up in the air, mid 30s
Brett Ritchie - good young kid, big and physical with decent scoring touch
Adam Cracknell - meh
Jiri Hudler - expiring contract, entering mid-30s
Valeri Nichushkin - ???
Hemsky - done for season, expiring contract, won't be coming back
Denis Guryanov - 19, 1st pick in 2015, just had a heckuva WJR tourney, playing AHL

Basically, we're thin there going forward.

Again, I'm on no way an Eberle fan, but taking that out of the equation, what would it take supposing Jim Nill considered him?

We have 2 veteran goalies that I'm personally no fan of either, but either would be a much better back-up I believe than what you have.

Patrick Sharp could be a rental piece should we decide to move him. Oduya as well.

We have some decent young defensemen, though so do you so you may not be interested.

Center Cody Eakin I'm not sure is in our long term plans.

Picks?

Gets dicey given the expansion draft. Certain players may need to be held onto in order to meet the criteria for exposed players, who are we planning on protecting, etc.

I'm not sure if there's really a one-for-one deal here, so it would likely be a package deal. I realize Eberle's value isn't at its peak right now and he's not exactly a coach's favorite, not really earning his contract either. Not necessarily addition by subtraction (though some may look at moving him in that way) so I'm not trying to suggest he be traded for nothing, but given everything, is there a deal to be made in the realm of piece/es to help you now should you still be winning and wanting to make a push, and something for the future as well?

Eberle has 2 years left at $6 mill per after this season. Nothing TOO heavy, and may be something Jim Nill would take on (I haven't gone through all the books). Might be something you guys wouldn't mind unloading, given how things just aren't working with him in Edmonton right now.

Thoughts?

 

[oilers89]

I think our template for the trade deadline should be:

Maroon Mcdavid Drai
Lucic Nuge ______ ( or ebs)
Pou _____ _____ ( or ebs)
Lander Letestu Kassian
Hendricks/caguila extra forwards

Klef Lars
Sek ____
Davidson/benning/nurse/gryba/Russel

1.RW- Depends who we acquire ebs can be on second line or 3rd line. Guys I would target would be stempniak, Vanek, iginal,vrbata. Im sure theres more that will be avliable but im just going off the top of my head. I cant see any of those guys costing to much that would hurt our future

2. Center- Right now I don't know who would be available for centers other then Hanzel and he might cost a lot.

3. RHS D man - Id try and grab Stone, green or barrie. Obviously the values differ quite a bit here. IF they cost to much im okay with running with what we have

4. A package id like for this year and future would be a Ryan Ellis and Craig Smith. Expansion draft complicates things obviously but both those guys would help a lot.

Thoughts?

 

[duul]

Coming in here leaving my bias at the door.

I'm far from a Jordan Eberle fan, but looking at the Dallas Stars' RW depth:

Patrick Eaves - having a career year, expring contract, 33 in May, like to keep him
Patrick Sharp LW/RW - expiring contract, return is up in the air, mid 30s
Brett Ritchie - good young kid, big and physical with decent scoring touch
Adam Cracknell - meh
Jiri Hudler - expiring contract, entering mid-30s
Valeri Nichushkin - ???
Hemsky - done for season, expiring contract, won't be coming back
Denis Guryanov - 19, 1st pick in 2015, just had a heckuva WJR tourney, playing AHL

Basically, we're thin there going forward.

Again, I'm on no way an Eberle fan, but taking that out of the equation, what would it take supposing Jim Nill considered him?

We have 2 veteran goalies that I'm personally no fan of either, but either would be a much better back-up I believe than what you have.

Patrick Sharp could be a rental piece should we decide to move him. Oduya as well.

We have some decent young defensemen, though so do you so you may not be interested.

Center Cody Eakin I'm not sure is in our long term plans.

Picks?

Gets dicey given the expansion draft. Certain players may need to be held onto in order to meet the criteria for exposed players, who are we planning on protecting, etc.

I'm not sure if there's really a one-for-one deal here, so it would likely be a package deal. I realize Eberle's value isn't at its peak right now and he's not exactly a coach's favorite, not really earning his contract either. Not necessarily addition by subtraction (though some may look at moving him in that way) so I'm not trying to suggest he be traded for nothing, but given everything, is there a deal to be made in the realm of piece/es to help you now should you still be winning and wanting to make a push, and something for the future as well?

Eberle has 2 years left at $6 mill per after this season. Nothing TOO heavy, and may be something Jim Nill would take on (I haven't gone through all the books). Might be something you guys wouldn't mind unloading, given how things just aren't working with him in Edmonton right now.

Thoughts?

We are looking for defencemen who can make a breakout pass and can rifle shots/get them off their stick fast.

 

[Soundwave]

I'd do Eberle + Davidson for Landeskog + prospect.

 

[Jet Walters]

I think our template for the trade deadline should be:

Maroon Mcdavid Drai
Lucic Nuge ______ ( or ebs)
Pou _____ _____ ( or ebs)
Lander Letestu Kassian
Hendricks/caguila extra forwards

Klef Lars
Sek ____
Davidson/benning/nurse/gryba/Russel

1.RW- Depends who we acquire ebs can be on second line or 3rd line. Guys I would target would be stempniak, Vanek, iginal,vrbata. Im sure theres more that will be avliable but im just going off the top of my head. I cant see any of those guys costing to much that would hurt our future

2. Center- Right now I don't know who would be available for centers other then Hanzel and he might cost a lot.

3. RHS D man - Id try and grab Stone, green or barrie. Obviously the values differ quite a bit here. IF they cost to much im okay with running with what we have

4. A package id like for this year and future would be a Ryan Ellis and Craig Smith. Expansion draft complicates things obviously but both those guys would help a lot.

Thoughts?

That would be my exact template. I think it makes sense to pick up a few forwards you plan to protect in the expansion draft and bring in a rental on the blue line like Stone.

Ideal pickups would be Craig Smith, Bjugstad, Hansen, and Stone while shipping out Eberle, Davidson, Reinhart, 2017 1st, 2017 3rd, and a prospect like Slepyshev.

 

[duul]

I'd do Eberle + Davidson for Landeskog + prospect.

For sure. Landeskog is a player built for playoff success. He would fit nicely into the group.

 

[Fourier]

I'd do Eberle + Davidson for Landeskog + prospect.

I'd make that trade in a heartbeat but I can't see the Avs doing it. I think they will want a defenseman who is a more known commodity or is seen to have higher upside.

 

[tjcurrie]

We are looking for defencemen who can make a breakout pass and can rifle shots/get them off their stick fast.

Hey! So are we!

We don't really have that sure shot proven piece back there you guys would see as a piece to improve you now, unless we're talking Klingberg, but that wouldn't happen.

That's why I look at some kind of package deal, though you guys may be wanting to use Eberle as a chip to acquire something more.

 

[Soundwave]

I'd make that trade in a heartbeat but I can't see the Avs doing it. I think they will want a defenseman who is a more known commodity or is seen to have higher upside.

It's kinda dicey for the Avs though if they keep trading away forward pieces, pretty soon you have a offence that is basically Nathan MacKinnon and no one else, which is what the Islanders are (Tavares on an island, literally).

In all honesty they should have offered Tyson Barrie for Taylor Hall last July 1st, taken that and ran.

 

[Fourier]

It's kinda dicey for the Avs though if they keep trading away forward pieces, pretty soon you have a offence that is basically Nathan MacKinnon and no one else, which is what the Islanders are (Tavares on an island, literally).

In all honesty they should have offered Tyson Barrie for Taylor Hall last July 1st, taken that and ran.

The other issue with Landeskog is that he is a LW and the Oilers have Maroon and Lucic in the role of "Heavy LW". Ideally they would want a guy like him who can play the RW role.