Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Time For Holland to Awaken From His Slumber

[Jimmi McJenkins]

No I’m not saying that but a winning dressing room develops a certain chemistry over time. Mess with it too much and things can unwind a bit.

Changing out 25% of the forwards is a lot on a team that’s contending. (3 of 12)

Sure, do you think there isn't room for 3 new faces? Because I absolutely believe there is.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Sure, do you think there isn't room for 3 new faces? Because I absolutely believe there is.

3 yes. 4 I’m worried might be a bridge too far.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

3 yes. 4 I’m worried might be a bridge too far.

Great movie.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Great movie.

One of my all time favourites!

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

I’ll say it again, if we do get a Ceci upgrade it won’t be for a rumored name.

Plenty of good players out there that aren’t being shopped but if you offer a 1st and a prospect or something they might budge.

I don’t think Nashville was looking to trade Ekholm and they might even call a mulligan on that if they could.

 

[oobga]

Ekholm was a clear upgrade over Barrie.

Walker isn't a clear upgrade over Ceci.

Most of the rumoured D to be available aren't a clear upgrade over Ceci, not like Ekholm was to Barrie anyway.

I personally do think Walker is a clear upgrade. Not nearly as big of one as Ekholm over Barrie at 5v5, but still it would be a good improvement to the club. Quite a few D out there rumored would be improvements on Ceci 5v5. And respect to Nurse adapting his game so well to try to hide what a drag Ceci is against good comp.

Fix the top 4 with a RHD that can actually help tilt the ice a bit against good comp and this team has a far better shot in the playoffs. Last year Ceci was targetted and helped absolutely tank our chances against Vegas.

 

[AM]

Nah. They celebrated our tough times. We don’t owe them any grace.

Maybe you should give yourself some grace?

 

[McTonyBrar]

All Oilers staff and Condors staff are in Boston. Is there anything to that or am I just over analyzing?

 

[Heavy Dee]

I really don't mind Ceci with Kulak.

It's whether VD can stay above water with Nurse.

 

[North]

Maybe you should give yourself some grace?

Let’s get back to talking about hockey.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

3 yes. 4 I’m worried might be a bridge too far.

It's only 3 forwards, and I think they swap Ceci for a different defender.

4 is a lot of players, but they have the assets and the need.

 

[belair]

I personally do think Walker is a clear upgrade. Not nearly as big of one as Ekholm over Barrie at 5v5, but still it would be a good improvement to the club. Quite a few D out there rumored would be improvements on Ceci 5v5. And respect to Nurse adapting his game so well to try to hide what a drag Ceci is against good comp.

Fix the top 4 with a RHD that can actually help tilt the ice a bit against good comp and this team has a far better shot in the playoffs. Last year Ceci was targetted and helped absolutely tank our chances against Vegas.

Last year Ceci was hurt. This year he looks a lot more engaged physically.

Ceci isn't preferable when you look at the assignments he faces. But guys like Walker or Carrier are smaller defensemen who would be taking on a role heavier than they currently handle.

The D market is ass. You don't trade Ceci for either of those defensemen unless the center comes with them.

 

[belair]

Agreed it’s unlikely Blue jackets would move him but you never know. Doesn’t seem like he has really worked out there and It’s possible Jackets could feel maybe they won’t be able to re tool on the fly quite like they maybe hoped. They’ve got some young guys coming up at LD so they main look to go younger and cheaper at some positions.

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Provorov
Kulak - Desharnais

Pretty stout D that’s locked in for another season but they’d like move Kulak and bring Broberg on full time.

I hope we trade for him in the summer if we don't at the deadline. I love the idea of extending him once Ekholm's contract tolls. Played in the WHL. He's a mobile puck mover that has a ton of experience carrying a workload similar to Darnell's.

 

[Wreckus]

All Oilers staff and Condors staff are in Boston. Is there anything to that or am I just over analyzing?

Trade deadline on the road.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

It's only 3 forwards, and I think they swap Ceci for a different defender.

4 is a lot of players, but they have the assets and the need.

I get it but they can upset team chemistry with too many changes. What is too many I guess is up to the manager to decide.

4 players on a 20 team roster is 20%. (Correct? They told me there’d be no math on the forum lol). That’s a large percentage with only 6 weeks to lock everyone in and find the correct fits for everyone.

I get your point though.

 

[Jet Walters]

Can any of our local capologists tell me if by sending Gagner down, Guentzel at 50% would fit now? It would make some sense since the Penguins announced they are trading him tomorrow. Then that puts pressure on other teams to have to take a Ceci/Foegele contract back on any other moves.

 

[Canovin]

I’m wondering if oilers are keeping Ceci while also bringing in another top 4 d and pushing Vinny to #7

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I get it but they can upset team chemistry with too many changes. What is too many I guess is up to the manager to decide.

4 players on a 20 team roster is 20%. (Correct? They told me there’d be no math on the forum lol). That’s a large percentage with only 6 weeks to lock everyone in and find the correct fits for everyone.

I get your point though.

I don't think the group is that fragile, but I do agree, that is ALOT of change at once. I'll be interested to see what happens. I suspect it will be at least 3 players.

Fingers crossed, we see solid improvement.

I’m wondering oilers are keeping Ceci while also bringing in another top 4 d and pushing Vinny to #7

If that were possible that would be kind of amazing.

 

[WaitingForUser]

I just don’t see Holland managing a 3 way trade

He got retention on Ekholm with a 3 say didn’t he? Edit guess not though he did get retention of 25% for 3 years

 

[Seachd]

He got retention on Ekholm with a 3 say didn’t he?

No, that was just with Nashville.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

All Oilers staff and Condors staff are in Boston. Is there anything to that or am I just over analyzing?

4-game roadie at trade deadline time so they’re all together to discuss offers/returns I’m guessing.

 

[Jet Walters]

He got retention on Ekholm with a 3 say didn’t he?

No, Nashville retained there. Although having to trade Puljujarvi for basically nothing was also needed to fit in Ekholm, so that’s kind of the same scenario as a three way.

 

[Oilslick941611]

I personally do think Walker is a clear upgrade. Not nearly as big of one as Ekholm over Barrie at 5v5, but still it would be a good improvement to the club. Quite a few D out there rumored would be improvements on Ceci 5v5. And respect to Nurse adapting his game so well to try to hide what a drag Ceci is against good comp.

Fix the top 4 with a RHD that can actually help tilt the ice a bit against good comp and this team has a far better shot in the playoffs. Last year Ceci was targetted and helped absolutely tank our chances against Vegas.

I don't agree.

However if someone can in and have amazing chemistry with Nurse thats a huge win for the team. Im not opposed to anything, I just don't think there are many players available that are better than what Ceci gives us. People here act like Ceci is useless and that just isn't the case.

 

[foshizzle]

I don't agree.

However if someone can in and have amazing chemistry with Nurse thats a huge win for the team. Im not opposed to anything, I just don't think there are many players available that are better than what Ceci gives us. People here act like Ceci is useless and that just isn't the case.

Ceci is near the bottom or at the bottom of the league in zone denials, successful exits, and pick retrievals. Yeah, he’s terrible. Terrible on the rush, terrible in zone defense, doesn’t support offence.

 

[ConnorNova0929]

All Oilers staff and Condors staff are in Boston. Is there anything to that or am I just over analyzing?

Standard protocol for a trade deadline war room.