are we letting any RFA walk this off season ??
Texier,
Johnson,
Marchenko,
Sillinger,
Chinakhov,
Nylander,
Bean
Christiansen
I could see some of this list being let walk for nothing. Others above should potentially be traded.Add Blankenburg, Greaves, Bjork, Angle, Dunne, and Meyer for a full list.
are we letting any RFA walk this off season ??
Texier,
Johnson,
Marchenko,
Sillinger,
Chinakhov,
Nylander,
Bean
Christiansen
Add Blankenburg, Greaves, Bjork, Angle, Dunne, and Meyer for a full list.
I don't think any of the first list will be let walk, maybe some of the second. But yeah I could see the new GM coming in and doing some sifting of that first list via trade.I could see some of this list being let walk for nothing. Others above should potentially be traded.
To expand on my thoughts:I don't think any of the first list will be let walk, maybe some of the second. But yeah I could see the new GM coming in and doing some sifting of that first list via trade.
Or Laine!Yikes, some of the takes on here.....trade KJ? Move Gaudreau??
Aye yi yi
Yikes, some of the takes on here.....trade KJ? Move Gaudreau??
Aye yi yi
Worthy thoughts to consider.Or Laine!
This is a great post. 100% agree especially the bolded.Worthy thoughts to consider.
Nobody is trading for Laine. Until he comes out of the player's assistance programs he has no value to any team and of course we have no idea when or if that will happen.
We should be really open to trading KJ. The new GM should have a strong vision for what this team should be and finding players to fit that should be a priority. His play this year as well as his lack of physical play/stature should not exempt him from being moved.
We need to be open to moving players to meet whatever future vision this team has. This sh*t ain't gonna fix itself.
Well no one is taking Johnny or Laine at those caphits, maybe Kent for someone similar in age who has some more tools at his disposal, and gives Chinakhov a chance at top 6 minutes, agreed he looks like something special.I'm trying to think about the forward group for next season, and what it would hypothetically look like if there are 0 trades made. The only way I can think to format it is this -
Gaudreau-Fantilli-Jenner
Johnson-Sillinger-Laine
Chinakhov-Voronkov-Marchenko
Texier-Kuraly-Danforth
Nylander, Olivier, with maybe Brindley and Dumais making cases
My takeaways are:
1. One of Laine, Johnson, or Gaudreau should be moved for a heavier forechecker that plays a more supportive game and does not need the puck on their stick to be effective. I wonder if the new GM would work with Gaudreau or Laine to move them to a preferred destination where they would waive their clauses. The issue with that idea is both of them seem to love living here, and neither are likely to be in a hurry to ask for a move. The team needs veterans but I like the idea of Fantilli leading the way with Johnson and Sillinger as his lieutenants, they seem to be pretty close friends off of the ice already, and with the work ethic those 3 (I assume Sillinger fixed his) have they could set the standard in a meaningful way. All of that to say I prefer to keep Johnson over the other two aforementioned players. Jarmo is gone too so there are no Brisson problems.
2. The three Russian forwards are keepers. I think very highly of Chinakhov. He is a killer out there, on a team that often looks hesitant, he stands out with how decisively and sharply attacks on offense. I feel like his skating went from a weakness to a strength in only 2 years. He works his ass off, went from a bit weak, stiff, and thin to one of the team's most impressive athletes in a pretty short period of time. Voronkov is obviously great for this forward group too, and I'm excited to see how his play grows in to next year. I think Marchenko may be who he is already, which is a fine middle 6 forward who is great for the locker room. He has filled the Gavrikov Russian ringleader void already.
3. The next GM is walking in to a great situation overall, but will instantly have work to do. I listed good players there, but this group does not work together. Maybe Gaudreau and Laine will look better once Fantilli is clearly the focal point of the forwards? That lineup is not a disaster, but definitely is not built to win in this league. The next part of the rebuild won't be a fun and comfortable one.
The defense is trickier. One of Severson, Jiricek, Boqvist, or Gudbranson should go. I very much prefer to bet on Jiricek over Boqvist still. If no one sends a spectacular offer for Provorov then I would like to see Werenski, Provorov, and Mateychuk down the left side. I think Severson will play better next season, and I liked him more than most did this season as is.
Werenski-Severson
Provorov-Gudbranson
Mateychuk-Jiricek
Might be fun? I think Mateychuk will be ready, and Jiricek probably will be however I'm less certain with him.
I do want a coach that has more balls, and will specially focus on giving support to Fantilli to take the team over from a leadership perspective. Someone telling consistently him "this will be your team"
Yes, the new GM should be tasked with moving the organization from an asset acquisition phase into a roster-building phase. Whoever it is should be considering moving even valuable pieces for other valuable pieces, in the interest of assembling a more cohesive roster/lineup.Worthy thoughts to consider.
Nobody is trading for Laine. Until he comes out of the player's assistance programs he has no value to any team and of course we have no idea when or if that will happen.
We should be really open to trading KJ. The new GM should have a strong vision for what this team should be and finding players to fit that should be a priority. His play this year as well as his lack of physical play/stature should not exempt him from being moved.
We need to be open to moving players to meet whatever future vision this team has. This sh*t ain't gonna fix itself.
If he were a 27 year old established NHLer with a potentially career threatening injury I might agree with you but this is not a permanent injury and I guarantee GMs will still see him as a long term asset to develop. They'll be more than willing to take on the short term loss for long term gain if he ends up not being part of the future vision here.Teams don't trade players partway into major rehab from surgery, or more properly teams don't trade for players in that situation. KJ's not moving this summer. He just had a surgery with a recovery time of 6-9 months. He's the literal definition of distressed asset. He is not tradable this summer.
And I say this as someone who would absolutely trade him if he were healthy.
Exactly- Jarmo I'm sure is good at fantasy hockey.This is a great post. 100% agree especially the bolded.
I think too many of us focus on individual players while ignoring the sum total of all the individual players. I think Jarmo was the leader of this kind of thinking.
Panthers moved Huberdeau for Tkachuk.Just for perspective. I'm not sure people expected the Panthers to move Huberdeau. Especially coming off of the 100 point season he just had before that trade. Look at where the team is now and what they got in return.
As I say with any player. Nobody is untouchable. You have to consider the return.Panthers moved Huberdeau for Tkachuk.
If Laine will be health, he will be a TOP NHL player and I don't see any reason to trade him. But if I understand JD, Euler's and Gaudreau right, his problems are very bad and it is a question when he will play, maybe ever if he will be continue to play hockey.
I doubt Gaudreau will be traded.
We need to think about whether we are overrated young players. Think of Brule, Brassard, Moore, Johansen etc. Are Russians, Johnson and Sillinger as good as we think? Chinakhov had an extremely high SH%, so did Marchenko. Is Jiříček really better than Boqvist? And there are many such questions.p
There is one more important thing, what style of play the new GM will be reviewing. More physical or based on speed, skill?
I think it is less likely an unestablished player is moved in this circumstance. NHL teams are notoriously risk-averse, and an injured, unproven player is a massive risk. He's not a long-term asset. He's just a broken kid right now.If he were a 27 year old established NHLer with a potentially career threatening injury I might agree with you but this is not a permanent injury and I guarantee GMs will still see him as a long term asset to develop. They'll be more than willing to take on the short term loss for long term gain if he ends up not being part of the future vision here.
He's a broken kid to us right now.I think it is less likely an unestablished player is moved in this circumstance. NHL teams are notoriously risk-averse, and an injured, unproven player is a massive risk. He's not a long-term asset. He's just a broken kid right now.
The question that should be asked of every single player on the roster by the new GM and the rest of management should be is "Do they exemplify what we want this team to be?"
If they don't, you move on from them and replace them with someone who does. They might be a much greater fit for another organization and meet their needs and that is ok. No point in holding on to assets and potential if it will never be realized here.