Roster and Fantasy GM Thread Pt. XVIII

[Melvin]

The Aquilinis kicked my dog.

Like, all at once or, did they take turns, or was it done as separate events?

 

[Nuckles]

Like, all at once or, did they take turns, or was it done as separate events?

Yes.

 

[WTG]

Hutton or Edler gonna get traded, I did the calculations in my head already it's a 100% certainty.

MDZ signed for 3 seasons @ 3m, Edler, Hutton, MDZ signed for long term. Pouloit needs playing time. LHD wise then need to free up a spot for him if he's being considered for long term.

This Pouloit trade opens us up for a Hutton/Edler trade.

 

[clunk]

Trading Hutton would be a mistake.

Edler I'd be fine with, as long as the value was there.

 

[elitepete]

How many draft picks could we get for the following crap:

Gudbranson
Vanek
Gagner
Burmistrov
Nilsson
Sutter
Del Zotto
Dorsett
Wiercioch
Holm
Megna
Chaput
Boucher

 

[WTG]

How many draft picks could we get for the following crap:

Gudbranson - 2nd
Vanek - 3rd
Gagner - 3rd
Burmistrov -5th
Nilsson - 5th
Sutter - 3rd
Del Zotto - 4th
Dorsett - FC
Wiercioch - FC
Holm - FC
Megna - FC
Chaput - FC
Boucher - FC

 

[elitepete]

Gudbranson - 2nd
Vanek - 3rd
Gagner - 3rd
Burmistrov -5th
Nilsson - 5th
Sutter - 3rd
Del Zotto - 4th
Dorsett - FC
Wiercioch - FC
Holm - FC
Megna - FC
Chaput - FC
Boucher - FC

You really think we could get a 3rd for sutter with that contract? I'd be ecstatic with future considerations.

 

[WTG]

You really think we could get a 3rd for sutter with that contract? I'd be ecstatic with future considerations.

Look at what Hanzel got, 1st, 2nd. You can dump him to some dumb team that thinks he's a good 2-way player for the future.

 

[Nuckles]

Friedman's 30 thoughts

8. And then there was one. With Josh Anderson joining Columbus, Andreas Athanasiou remains the only unsigned player. From the beginning, people who know him said he would be the most dug-in of all, and that’s proven to be true. When it reaches this point, you wonder if there’s something besides financials affecting his decision, maybe usage or role. I think there are other teams interested (personal guesses include St. Louis and Vancouver), but I’m guessing they wait to see if Detroit will consider a trade rather than trying an offer sheet.

RIP Hutton

 

[timw33]

Friedman's 30 thoughts


RIP Hutton

Ah, a versatile fordward. We should try and get Jannik Hansen he's insanely versatile!

 

[Eddy Punch Clock]

How many draft picks could we get for the following crap:

Better question is "How many draft picks would Benning throw in to trade the following crap".

 

[NoShowWilly]

speaking of players with unsustainably high Shooting percentages

 

[RobertKron]

Look at what Hanzel got, 1st, 2nd. You can dump him to some dumb team that thinks he's a good 2-way player for the future.

Hanzal cost like 800k less and was on an expiring contract. Convincing a team that they want Sutter for a couple months is a whole different ballgame than convincing them that they want to pay him 4.375 for another three years.

Also Sutter has a full NTC so the receiving team would feel that they have tons of leverage in context of the deadline where there's so little time for going back and forth with the player about various options.

 

[WTG]

Hanzal cost like 800k less and was on an expiring contract. Convincing a team that they want Sutter for a couple months is a whole different ballgame than convincing them that they want to pay him 4.375 for another three years.

Also Sutter has a full NTC so the receiving team would feel that they have tons of leverage in context of the deadline where there's so little time for going back and forth with the player about various options.

3rd vs a 1st and 2nd.

I didnt say sutter would get a similar return

 

[Hansen]

Hutton or Edler gonna get traded, I did the calculations in my head already it's a 100% certainty.

MDZ signed for 3 seasons @ 3m, Edler, Hutton, MDZ signed for long term. Pouloit needs playing time. LHD wise then need to free up a spot for him if he's being considered for long term.

This Pouloit trade opens us up for a Hutton/Edler trade.

This is my fear too, they've been trying to trade Hutton since before last year started

 

[Nuckles]

This is my fear too, they've been trying to trade Hutton since before last year started

"Far too much personality." - Jim Benning probably

 

[JuniorNelson]

No doubt Canucks are shopping. This team still has questionable utility.

I think it is too early to suggest any moves on defense. Canucks do not have depth on defense and can barely force a top six. One injury can compromise the entire unit, forcing the goaltending onto another plane. Think about that. Canucks do not have a steady veteran in net any more. They only have a few on defense.

As the season gets above ten games played some forwards will be on the outs. Canucks must be terrified of this! Watching teams whiz by pylons is only fun if it's somebody else's team. Slowpokes might be marketed to Eastern teams and garner some return. Dumping them is more useful than spending a defenseman they can't afford. Also, it is my estimation that Canucks will be in desperate need by then and may have to pay premium prices. This can't really be avoided. Lots of teams will be exposed and have to make fixes. Canucks may need to assemble a package. The cost for a new starter, for example, might be a speedy kid, a top four defenseman and an early pick. Or, suppose they want more scoring. A young fast skater will cost. They will know by then, that adding an older player is no help at all in this environment.

Canucks are still living in denial. This will certainly be demonstrated to them. Past errors are going to compound, again. They aren't built to the current standards, at all.

Bully for them, staying active and trying to refloat the Titanic. They should be throwing the elderly passengers off. It's an ugly analogy but guys like Eriksson and his fourteen goals do not qualify as crew. There are hallowed saints that cannot be questioned (it's a sin!) so the iceberg is lurking. Imagine a Canucks team with a Sedin third line, then build to suit.

 

[Fan 4 Life]

Just curious how you guys have felt about Del Zotto. I see a lot of people pairing him with Tanev, is this because he has shown well through camp or does he need some protection? I hope he bounces back with you guys.

 

[rune74]

Just curious how you guys have felt about Del Zotto. I see a lot of people pairing him with Tanev, is this because he has shown well through camp or does he need some protection? I hope he bounces back with you guys.

I have been pretty happy with his play. He sometimes does some weird things with the puck but he is definitely gifted with the offensive side. To early to give much more on him, seems to be gelling with the team pretty good however.

 

[NuxFan09]

For the D I'd like to see:

Hutton - Tanev
Edler - Stecher
Del Zotto - Gudbranson

I like that we have mobility on every pairing. We know Edler-Stecher worked last year and if Hutton takes another step then that pairing could be smooth as silk. Del Zotto and Gudbranson is an unknown but as the 3rd pairing we would have the luxury of not needing them to be really good together. In theory, though, they could work off each other nicely.

 

[Balls Mahoney]

I'm pretty amazed Del Zotto is on this team. How did he fall to us at 3 million? This guy is a 5 million top four on a playoff team defenseman. The more I watch him, the more I'm impressed with him.

 

[Yggdrasil]

I know too early, but f*** it

Kane + Tavares become avaliable

Kane Tavares Boeser (assuming he does really well for the rest of the season)
Gagner Horvat Virtenan (same as boeser)
Granlund Sutter Eriksson (shut down line)
??? ??? ???

what do y'all think? definitely playoff contenders i'd say.

 

[canuckslover10]

Boi you crazy

 

[Nuckles]

I'll have what he's drinking

 

[Nuckles]

Ahhh, Leafs fans are ramping up on Tanev proposals again. These are always good