Prospects and Marlies Thread
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Good for Bracco.
First goal was a bit of a cheesy one but a goal is a goal. He should have a huge year in Kitchener this season and hopefully plays his way onto the WJC team.
First goal was a bit of a cheesy one but a goal is a goal. He should have a huge year in Kitchener this season and hopefully plays his way onto the WJC team.
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When Babcock says, we have 5 or 6 kids that will score big in this league who do you think he means?
Obviously the big 3 Willy Marner Matthews..But who are the next 3? Does he consider Rielly a kid? Does he consider Kadri a kid?
My best guess for who he is talking about with the other 3 are: Soshnikov, Brown, Korshkov/Rychel...Thats just my guess. I think he really likes Sosh and Brown.
Obviously the big 3 Willy Marner Matthews..But who are the next 3? Does he consider Rielly a kid? Does he consider Kadri a kid?
My best guess for who he is talking about with the other 3 are: Soshnikov, Brown, Korshkov/Rychel...Thats just my guess. I think he really likes Sosh and Brown.
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I don't think it was an exact estimate. Just that he thinks we'll end up with a bunch of great scorers from our prospect pool.
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Shame, even though I only saw them from the short highlights I thought that Greenway showed some good speed and offensive skill. Maybe he's still not all there defensively.
Also means Bracco survives a round of cuts.
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U.S. team down to 33 players at Evaluation Camp
First-round pick Max Jones among 10 sent home vying for World Junior team
by Adam Kimelman @NHLAdamK / NHL.com Deputy Managing Editor
https://www.nhl.com/news/usa-makes-cuts-at-world-juniors-evaluation-camp/c-281268712
First-round pick Max Jones among 10 sent home vying for World Junior team
by Adam Kimelman @NHLAdamK / NHL.com Deputy Managing Editor
https://www.nhl.com/news/usa-makes-cuts-at-world-juniors-evaluation-camp/c-281268712
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The year following should provide a better opportunity to make the team once he has more experience.
Nice little reality check before the hype train gets out of control around here. Greenway has a lot of growing in his game to do.
Not really. if he continues to improve the Leafs are not going to give up on him yet. This is not the old Leafs that had no interest in developing and waiting for prospects to develop
Leafs just drafted 3 or 4 guys one year younger than him and he just finished his first year of his 3 year ELC.
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Red marks Shanahan's arrival. (Apr. 11, 2014)
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Black marks Lamierello's arrival. (Jul. 23, 2015)
I am not trying to comment on whether these were the right or wrong decisions to make.
Just laying out the facts regarding Toronto moving young pieces (25 and under), where the argument can be made, "waiting for [the prospect] to develop". There actually have been a lot for a team "valuing youth", "trying to build from within" and "develop their own players".
Now, my opinion: I feel Lou has demonstrated (and the crew as a whole since Shanahan arrived, but especially Lou) a penchant for getting rid of a player that another regime brought in. I do not think that is good enough reason to trade a player, and I have had some qualms with Lou's management of minor assets.
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Greenway will be good. He has to round out his game offensively and defensively, but has a swagger that all good players have.
Also, to those that continually hound Jeremy Bracco, remember that hands and vision cannot be taught.
Also, to those that continually hound Jeremy Bracco, remember that hands and vision cannot be taught.
Of course he does. He's a kid just drafted. Not sure why you are saying this Ernie.
Are people pumping him up beyond his level already?
Odd that someone would apparently prefer prospects to do poorly in order to keep hype down, instead of performing well and being better prospects.
ya and I bet hes pissed he got cut ,likely not going to have many 18 year olds on defence ,I stillwish he was going to junior ,
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Seems to me like a pretty typical number of under-25 players to let go for any organization over a 2-3 year period. There's always tons of turnover at those ages, particularly with ELCs expiring or players having a brief window to show they're up to it after Junior or the NCAA... You usually have a pretty damn good idea of a player's trajectory by the time they turn 22. (Yeah, yeah, there are exceptions... but I'm mainly talking about tweener prospects) This 'Detroit' model people often refer to only makes sense in the context of players who are actually producing in the AHL.
And as you said, that's not even getting into whether any of those listed players was worth keeping around or did/will turn into something... With a brief, superficial skim of that list, I literally don't see a single player where I have any inkling they'll turn into a solid NHLer worth rooing over their departure someday. Harrington could be a 3rd-pairing guy someday, for example, but that's not the type of player you should ever be missing... We're trying to build a championship squad, not a collection of dime-a-dozen, competent NHLers (or as you said yourself, 'minor assets')
(I have a general pet peeve about every 'prospect' seemingly being given infinite time to 'develop' on these boards, though I suppose we all do root for them to develop if we're on here. I honestly don't know what age posters think isn't "too soon" to evaluate a prospect. It seems it's only not "too soon" once a player's literally become an NHLer or their contract expires and no other NHL team picks them up.)
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I digress, apologies for my mini-rant!
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What hype train?
Folk can't get excited about a prospect?
Most common theme I have read on here is that he is a talented kid, but needs time to refine his game.
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