so does Krug
So does Letang
So does Nurse.
So does Doughty
So do the other 5 D on Tampa
Getting a little old. Knocking a players stats by attributing his success to playing with great players.
Hedman still had to put up those numbers and he is responsible for them more than anyone else.
I'm not knocking on Hedman.
I'm just arguing for who should get the Norris between Doughty, Subban and Hedman. Btw, the only one you didn't name in your list was Subban...
And I disagree for Doughty. Aside from Kopitar, there's no forward in LA that comes close to Kuch and Stamkos. Add the fact that LA is goal starved and wholy lack offensive depth compared to Tampa.
You can't disregard each of their context,
especially for offensive stats and needs to be balanced with the impact of their different teamates, also versus the support the compared players get from their own teamates. In Hedman's case, there's so much offensive depth in TB aside from two forward superstars, i'm not surprised he comes first among D's for primary points per 60. Thing is, PK has more 5vs5 total primary points despite not having the same offensive support from elite forwards AND getting the highest 5vs5 Defzone start %.
Should we also disregard the context in which Subban gets 59 points on the most loaded team on the backend? It's a lot harder to get a good share of points when there are so many Ds that can take their share. You can also see this effect with Hedman who got 9 points less than last season partly because he now had Sergachev taking up his own share, also despite adding Stamkos as another elite forward to pot it in.
So I guess trying to balance every aspect is what's getting old...
Anyway. This whole stat pile-up started with talks about the Norris nominees.
I'm looking at their stats, contributions/impact, team performance, teamate performance.
What's getting old is knee-jerk reactions to stating a fact.
Passive agressive, I see.... Worry I make your dear PK look bad? Kinda pathetic.
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Compensate much?
So I guess you had no counter arguments so you decided to create this whole strawman based on pseudo-telepathic powers?
Yeah it's so pathetic to put a stat into context.
What age are you? I mean, mentally?