Speculation: Neutral Fan Proposals

[Crosscrease14]

Kings send 2OV, Vilardi, 2021 1st

Buffalo sends Eichel

If Eichel is pushing to leave I could see something like this

So, this definitely gets into core players, but...

Marner for Doughty

Maybe LA adds a little given Doughty's age and performance last year. Both are overpaid at this point. Doughty fits Leafs positional needs while Marner aligns better with Kings rebuild.

Zero chance from Toronto. Doughty will be headed for decline while Marner has a chance to play to his contract. They're both overpaid but headed in different directions.

 

[Shocker]

I'm not surprised you couldn't find anything else to argue on that post. Because it just contains cold, hard numbers.

But yeah, I'm the one delusional to suggest Ehlers and Domi aren't in two completely different universes...

You want context? One player is signed long term @ 6m/per, the other is a soon to be RFA with arb rights and recently hired an agent known for long holdouts. There is your context.

No one said "in completely different universes" and the answer to your rant was already in here, on the same page, which you conveniently ignored.

But keep up the good fight, champ.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

No one said "in completely different universes" and the answer to your rant was already in here, on the same page, which you conveniently ignored.

But keep up the good fight, champ.

lol;

Lol. Domi doesn’t hold anywhere close to that value. Keep adding Habs. Add a lot.

fail

 

[Fig]

What does Preds add for taking on that dump?

Since it seems like the Ottawa one doesn't work on optics alone, I assume that Detroit would do it for a pick?

The Winnipeg one was one dump for another, but Winnipeg does it because they can actually get value out of Turris buy giving him favorable play time as a 2C vs unable to maximize Perrault and Nashville maybe does it because Perrault's cap hit is 2/3 of Turris so has a better buy out than Turris? (Didn't research this deeply before posting it yesterday)

 

[strictlyrandy]

Marner for Doughty 1 for 1.

 

[Shocker]

lol;



fail

My god, you can't even read?

My bad, i shouldn't have bullied you then, go on.

 

[Tripod]

To add to the Domi/Ehlers talk, I am a fan of neither team.

Domi: 51(pace), 72, 45, 53(pace)
Ehlers: 67(pace), 49 (pace), 60, 64

To me, it looks like year by year:
Ehlers is likely to be a 60-65 point guy
Domi is likely to be a 50-55 point guy

Does Domi's position, physicality edge make up the difference? What will Domi and his agent want for a contract as that also could sway things.

 

[TS Quint]

Domi is 25 years old. Ehlers is 24.
Domi has an average of 55 points per 82 games played. Ehlers has 57.
In the past two seasons, Domi has an average of 62 points per 82 games played. Ehlers 59.
Domi plays center. Ehlers plays winger.
Domi career-high in goals: 28. Ehlers: 29.
In the past two seasons, Domi hasn't missed one game due to injuries. Ehlers looks like he has missed quite a bit.

Statements like "DoMi DoEsN'T HoLd AnYwHeRe ClOsE tO tHaT VaLuE" are just misguided and prove how little you know about Domi. Bear in mind that Domi hasn't had to quality of teammates Ehlers had in Winnipeg either.

People talk about Habs fans overrating their players. Jets fans are about 10 times worse.

Explain why you think this adds value to Domi?

 

[Pongs21]

- Nylander, Petan

- Dumba, Foligno (50% retained), 2021 3rd

 

[glenbuis]

Lol. Domi doesn’t hold anywhere close to that value. Keep adding Habs. Add a lot.

Yes because 9 points in 25 playoff games is something you don’t find everywheres

 

[glenbuis]

74 points in 55 games....... what a comment.

And how long will he keep that up

 

[Pongs21]

To add to the Domi/Ehlers talk, I am a fan of neither team.

Domi: 51(pace), 72, 45, 53(pace)
Ehlers: 67(pace), 49 (pace), 60, 64

To me, it looks like year by year:
Ehlers is likely to be a 60-65 point guy
Domi is likely to be a 50-55 point guy

Does Domi's position, physicality edge make up the difference? What will Domi and his agent want for a contract as that also could sway things.

I think any difference that it makes up, is washed completely away by Ehlers long term team friendly contract

 

[Tripod]

I think any difference that it makes up, is washed completely away by Ehlers long term team friendly contract

And it could. But until Domi's long term deal is known, that could change. Maybe Domi signs a great deal too. But 100% the contract being "unknown" works in Ehlers favor for sure because Domi and his agent could be looking for 6-7 million. Just don't know right now. But I am willing to bet that the agent will be pushing the "70 point upside" of Domi, and not just accept the 50-55 usual Domi. To me, Domi's 70+ point season is as unlikely as his 45 point season. He seems much more likely to be in the middle of both...50-55.

 

[Big Muddy]

To Carolina: #40, Laine & Poolman

To Winnipeg: #13, Necas, & Pesce

I wouldn't do that deal if I were Carolina. Canes should just be patient. There will be plenty of forwards available on the market looking for homes. There will be a good deal for a good forward eventually such that they won't have to give a core piece to get one of those players. They just have to wait and be patient.

 

[Pongs21]

And it could. But until Domi's long term deal is known, that could change. Maybe Domi signs a great deal too. But 100% the contract being "unknown" works in Ehlers favor for sure because Domi and his agent could be looking for 6-7 million. Just don't know right now. But I am willing to bet that the agent will be pushing the "70 point upside" of Domi, and not just accept the 50-55 usual Domi. To me, Domi's 70+ point season is as unlikely as his 45 point season. He seems much more likely to be in the middle of both...50-55.

If they signed the idential contract sure, the value i think is close to a wash, but I'd prefer Ehlers still. I thought I read Domi was asking for something in the 8 + range. Not sure where I read it, could have been on here so could just be BS. But say Domi did sign for 8 +, that's a big No from WPG.

 

[Tripod]

If they signed the idential contract sure, the value i think is close to a wash, but I'd prefer Ehlers still. I thought I read Domi was asking for something in the 8 + range. Not sure where I read it, could have been on here so could just be BS. But say Domi did sign for 8 +, that's a big No from WPG.

of for sure. Domi isn't worth 8. Not even close.

 

[absolute garbage]

Domi, 16th pick and Caufield to NYR for 1st overall and Smith.

 

[BatVader]

That poster has been trying to push Domi to Winnipeg for weeks now..... we, mostly, just ignore him now... unless we need a good laugh

 

[howkie]

Since it seems like the Ottawa one doesn't work on optics alone, I assume that Detroit would do it for a pick?

The Winnipeg one was one dump for another, but Winnipeg does it because they can actually get value out of Turris buy giving him favorable play time as a 2C vs unable to maximize Perrault and Nashville maybe does it because Perrault's cap hit is 2/3 of Turris so has a better buy out than Turris? (Didn't research this deeply before posting it yesterday)

Perra has like what 1 years left, turris has 4. Nashville needs to retain max and Keep add if Jets gonna take him

 

[BatVader]

Domi, 16th pick and Caufield to NYR for 1st overall and Smith.

I think people are far overvaluing Domi on here.

 

[TS Quint]

And how long will he keep that up

“Not much tread left on the tires”....Dear lord.

 

[BatVader]

NYR: Jack Eichel
BUF: 1OA

(I just want to see some damn trade drama)

 

[Bouboumaster]

Domi for Saad. Maybe Montreal adds a pick.

Montreal don't touch that

 

[Fig]

Perra has like what 1 years left, turris has 4. Nashville needs to retain max and Keep add if Jets gonna take him

You're probably correct then. My bad, somehow I thought Perrault had 2-3 years left vs Turris' 4.

 

[John Sandow]

Domi for Saad. Maybe Montreal adds a pick.

I'd do it as a Habs fan; Saad's a winger who scores goals, Yes please. Domi's more talented and younger yes, but he's an RFA, and I'm not sure they'll be room for him at centre anyway. I wouldn't add a pick however.