Value of: Matthews and Laine’s new contracts

[Dodospice]

Somewhere between 12-14% of the total cap. That seems to be the magic number for truly elite players when they sign their contracts.

 

[Menzinger]

Wishful thinking seems to be getting the bet of some folks.

Nether guy signs for a dime under 10 million. Matthews likely makes a bit more because centres are more valuable and rarer to draft and develop.

 

[Goleafsgo95]

It depends. If Matthews puts up 40 goals and 80 points next year I can't see him getting more than 10mill. If he has a massive 50 goal 90 point year then he's looking at 11 to 12.5.

 

[hockeyguy1967]

It depends. If Matthews puts up 40 goals and 80 points next year I can't see him getting more than 10mill. If he has a massive 50 goal 90 point year then he's looking at 11 to 12.5.

Matthews will sign this summer the first day it's allowed same as McDavid did.

 

[Goleafsgo95]

Likely true. Leafs will try for 10 but go as high as 11 to avoid giving him the extra year to go out and put up monster numbers. Other than Malkin and Crosby who are recent 50 goal centers?

Edit: And Stamkos.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

It's funny that SO MANY think Matthews is better than Eichel and now he's going to take LESS money with the cap going up no less. This from a guy who played a year overseas to make some bucks as a kid.
Good luck with him anywhere at less than $10.5 x eight years. And that would really be a hometown discount.
Bigger issue for Leafs fans is does he want the eight-year deal or is he looking stateside eventually. Ontario residents face a top marginal rate of almost 53% -- pretty hefty next to places like Florida, Texas or Arizona (which is pretty low). He only keeps $4.68 Million of $10 M in Ontario. In Zona, he'd keep $5.6 M
Toronto is in the hole on taxes and is going to have to pony up for that too. I believe he says -- for major bucks.
Laine isn't a centre but c'mon he is the top goal scorer. He's in Winnipeg so nobody pays attention to same degree in Toronto media centre. His career numbers are better than Matthews. He's going to be close to that $10M.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Both contracts will be max term, Matthews $11M AAV and Laine $9.25M AAV.

 

[93LEAFS]

It's funny that SO MANY think Matthews is better than Eichel and now he's going to take LESS money with the cap going up no less. This from a guy who played a year overseas to make some bucks as a kid.
Good luck with him anywhere at less than $10.5 x eight years. And that would really be a hometown discount.
Bigger issue for Leafs fans is does he want the eight-year deal or is he looking stateside eventually. Ontario residents face a top marginal rate of almost 53% -- pretty hefty next to places like Florida, Texas or Arizona (which is pretty low). He only keeps $4.68 Million of $10 M in Ontario. In Zona, he'd keep $5.6 M
Toronto is in the hole on taxes and is going to have to pony up for that too. I believe he says -- for major bucks.
Laine isn't a centre but c'mon he is the top goal scorer. He's in Winnipeg so nobody pays attention to same degree in Toronto media centre. His career numbers are better than Matthews. He's going to be close to that $10M.

Let's just forget he'll make more off the ice in Toronto than any of the tax havens you mention.

Going over seas also wasn't purely about money. He was leaning towards going to the WHL but felt he had nothing to prove and would have to rush to skip a grade to be eligible for the NCAA (he was in grade 11 during his last USNTDP year).

 

[J999]

The good thing certainly with the Jets is those Scheifele& Ehlers contracts, they will help to balance whatever contract Laine ends up signing.

I agree. I see Laine signing at around 8.5M x 8

 

[10Ducky10]

It's funny that SO MANY think Matthews is better than Eichel and now he's going to take LESS money with the cap going up no less. This from a guy who played a year overseas to make some bucks as a kid.
Good luck with him anywhere at less than $10.5 x eight years. And that would really be a hometown discount.
Bigger issue for Leafs fans is does he want the eight-year deal or is he looking stateside eventually. Ontario residents face a top marginal rate of almost 53% -- pretty hefty next to places like Florida, Texas or Arizona (which is pretty low). He only keeps $4.68 Million of $10 M in Ontario. In Zona, he'd keep $5.6 M
Toronto is in the hole on taxes and is going to have to pony up for that too. I believe he says -- for major bucks.
Laine isn't a centre but c'mon he is the top goal scorer. He's in Winnipeg so nobody pays attention to same degree in Toronto media centre. His career numbers are better than Matthews. He's going to be close to that $10M.

He is living in Canada...4.68x1.25=5.85.

 

[93LEAFS]

He is living in Canada...4.68x1.25=5.85.

The other major thing lost here is that to live in high-end American suburbs that are desirable, the property taxes tend to be extremely high. This is due to less centralized government and downloading of costs to individual counties and municipalities.

 

[10Ducky10]

He'll make endorsement money too.
Plus the Leafs need Matthews badly.
They are one of the most storied franchises in the history of the league and all kidding aside, it is good to see them being run properly again. It has been far too long. Good, smart owners that let management do there job. Great job by Shanahan and Co. A stronger Leafs team means a stronger league.
I grew up a Habs fan starting around 66 so I still hate the Leafs and probably always will. Ditto Philly and Boston but good to see they are being run properly and have a great future. Now, about that Habs' franchise...

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

They will both earn more than me, that’s all I know.

They will both make, in one year, more than my entire extended family combined has or ever will.

The only thing that should matter is cap hit to us mortals.

 

[93LEAFS]

He'll make endorsement money too.
Plus the Leafs need Matthews badly.
They are one of the most storied franchises in the history of the league and all kidding aside, it is good to see them being run properly again. It has been far too long. Good, smart owners that let management do there job. Great job by Shanahan and Co. A stronger Leafs team means a stronger league.
I grew up a Habs fan starting around 66 so I still hate the Leafs and probably always will. Ditto Philly and Boston but good to see they are being run properly and have a great future. Now, about that Habs' franchise...

Already is. Rumored he's making close to a mil a year off of Scotia. At the very least he's making 7 figures over the life of his multi-year deal. But, it makes a lot of sense for Scotia to pay a fortune for Matthews considering they just paid 40 million a year (over 20 years) for the naming rights to the ACC and their big hockey star for marketing was traded outside the country (Subban).

 

[supsens]

It's funny that SO MANY think Matthews is better than Eichel and now he's going to take LESS money with the cap going up no less. This from a guy who played a year overseas to make some bucks as a kid.
Good luck with him anywhere at less than $10.5 x eight years. And that would really be a hometown discount.
Bigger issue for Leafs fans is does he want the eight-year deal or is he looking stateside eventually. Ontario residents face a top marginal rate of almost 53% -- pretty hefty next to places like Florida, Texas or Arizona (which is pretty low). He only keeps $4.68 Million of $10 M in Ontario. In Zona, he'd keep $5.6 M
Toronto is in the hole on taxes and is going to have to pony up for that too. I believe he says -- for major bucks.
Laine isn't a centre but c'mon he is the top goal scorer. He's in Winnipeg so nobody pays attention to same degree in Toronto media centre. His career numbers are better than Matthews. He's going to be close to that $10M.

He is living in Canada his 10 turns into 12.8 Canadian dollars before taxes

 

[Martin Skoula]

Already is. Rumored he's making close to a mil a year off of Scotia. At the very least he's making 7 figures over the life of his multi-year deal. But, it makes a lot of sense for Scotia to pay a fortune for Matthews considering they just paid 40 million a year (over 20 years) for the naming rights to the ACC and their big hockey star for marketing was traded outside the country (Subban).

Got a Porsche too. Plus some of the lowest expectations ever, put together a few decent playoff runs and you'll be a legend in the city until you die. Clark is still basically Toronto royalty, hell even Domi is still somehow relevant.

 

[93LEAFS]

Got a Porsche too. Plus some of the lowest expectations ever, put together a few decent playoff runs and you'll be a legend in the city until you die. Clark is still basically Toronto royalty, hell even Domi is still somehow relevant.

Most guys even average ones get deals on cars for promotion. Matthews has the best one I'm aware of, as that's like a $220,000, as I think they gave him a GT3 RS.

 

[LeafsNation75]

It depends. If Matthews puts up 40 goals and 80 points next year I can't see him getting more than 10mill. If he has a massive 50 goal 90 point year then he's looking at 11 to 12.5.

The Leafs management will want him signed to an extension this July when they are allowed to start talking to him about it, since it's what Connor McDavid and Jack Eichel also did prior to their ELC finishing.

 

[BlueBaron]

It's funny that SO MANY think Matthews is better than Eichel and now he's going to take LESS money with the cap going up no less. This from a guy who played a year overseas to make some bucks as a kid.
Good luck with him anywhere at less than $10.5 x eight years. And that would really be a hometown discount.
Bigger issue for Leafs fans is does he want the eight-year deal or is he looking stateside eventually. Ontario residents face a top marginal rate of almost 53% -- pretty hefty next to places like Florida, Texas or Arizona (which is pretty low). He only keeps $4.68 Million of $10 M in Ontario. In Zona, he'd keep $5.6 M
Toronto is in the hole on taxes and is going to have to pony up for that too. I believe he says -- for major bucks.
Laine isn't a centre but c'mon he is the top goal scorer. He's in Winnipeg so nobody pays attention to same degree in Toronto media centre. His career numbers are better than Matthews. He's going to be close to that $10M.

It's even funnier you think all players get paid in relation to Eichel.

Your knowledge of taxes is also highly flawed. He is almost certainly a registered corporation using tax shelters and other vehicle to ensure he does not pay the amounts HF posters usually figure they do.

It's pretty obvious you have no clue what you are talking about, but your righteous indignation is amusing.

 

[Critical13]

It's funny that SO MANY think Matthews is better than Eichel and now he's going to take LESS money with the cap going up no less. This from a guy who played a year overseas to make some bucks as a kid.
Good luck with him anywhere at less than $10.5 x eight years. And that would really be a hometown discount.
Bigger issue for Leafs fans is does he want the eight-year deal or is he looking stateside eventually. Ontario residents face a top marginal rate of almost 53% -- pretty hefty next to places like Florida, Texas or Arizona (which is pretty low). He only keeps $4.68 Million of $10 M in Ontario. In Zona, he'd keep $5.6 M
Toronto is in the hole on taxes and is going to have to pony up for that too. I believe he says -- for major bucks.
Laine isn't a centre but c'mon he is the top goal scorer. He's in Winnipeg so nobody pays attention to same degree in Toronto media centre. His career numbers are better than Matthews. He's going to be close to that $10M.

Bigger issue...in your head?

This whole post is just so poorly thought out.

Do you actually think that 1 million won't be covered by the ludicrous ad deals he's going to get in his carreer in TO?

 

[hockeyguy1967]

Already is. Rumored he's making close to a mil a year off of Scotia. At the very least he's making 7 figures over the life of his multi-year deal. But, it makes a lot of sense for Scotia to pay a fortune for Matthews considering they just paid 40 million a year (over 20 years) for the naming rights to the ACC and their big hockey star for marketing was traded outside the country (Subban).

As someone in the know, McDavid makes close to 8 million in endorsements per year which is more then Crosby. He has CIBC, Adidas/CCM, Canadian Tire, Biosteel and GoAuto (35 dealership chain in Edmonton which pays him close to 2.5 a year alone)

Obviously McDavid is a bit different but depending on performance Matthews will certainly make a ton off of Endorsements if he goes hard on then like McDavid has.

 

[93LEAFS]

As someone in the know, McDavid makes close to 8 million in endorsements per year which is more then Crosby. He has CIBC, Adidas/CCM, Canadian Tire, Biosteel and GoAuto (35 dealership chain in Edmonton which pays him close to 2.5 a year alone)

Obviously McDavid is a bit different but depending on performance Matthews will certainly make a ton off of Endorsements if he goes hard on then like McDavid has.

Yeah, playing in Canada, and being a Canadian prodigy helps McDavid. McDavid also has a Rogers deal.

Matthews is in a great position to cash in though. His popularity in Canada will rival McDavid (although he'll be more divisive). The Leafs area accounts for 1/4 of the Canadian population, and roughly 1/3 of the non-francophone population. I'm sure Rogers or Bell can justify giving Matthews the same deal they gave McDavid or about 90% of it, given his marketability in Canada's largest marketplace. It will be interesting because owners can give their own players deals that pass the "market test" in endorsements. I have no idea how the league figures it out though. McDavid is Canadian and an MVP, but he also plays in a market about 14% of Toronto, and while he has more national appeal, I'm not sure that covers the difference.

The other massive difference, McDavid could probably make that type of endorsement money in any Canadian market, Matthews can probably only make that much money in the Toronto market.

 

[TS Quint]

I love that the Jets get the player who scores more points for less money.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Yes, I have a feeling he's going to be a problem for me for a loooong while. Do like a lot of the Jets players though. I can't bring myself to like Laine though until he stops looking like a goat

so what you're saying is that Laine is the GOAT?

 

[LeafsNation75]

Yeah, playing in Canada, and being a Canadian prodigy helps McDavid. McDavid also has a Rogers deal.

Matthews is in a great position to cash in though. His popularity in Canada will rival McDavid (although he'll be more divisive). The Leafs area accounts for 1/4 of the Canadian population, and roughly 1/3 of the non-francophone population. I'm sure Rogers or Bell can justify giving Matthews the same deal they gave McDavid or about 90% of it, given his marketability in Canada's largest marketplace. It will be interesting because owners can give their own players deals that pass the "market test" in endorsements. I have no idea how the league figures it out though. McDavid is Canadian and an MVP, but he also plays in a market about 14% of Toronto, and while he has more national appeal, I'm not sure that covers the difference.

The other massive difference, McDavid could probably make that type of endorsement money in any Canadian market, Matthews can probably only make that much money in the Toronto market.

Since both Bell and Rogers both equally own the Leafs I can't see why Matthews couldn't get the same deal McDavid got with Rogers. So I guess the question is does Bell do something with Matthews to be different than McDavid and his deal with Rogers? Although at every Leafs press conference with Babcock is the Rogers logo and they might not like that.