Player Discussion Matt Grzelcyk

[wintersej]

Krug and Rafalski are different... Similar height but thats about it

Rafalski was a beautiful skater and solid on the defensive end for a 5'10 D. Same as Grz

But Rafalski also produced a point every other game. Maybe Grz will be able to do that one day (especially if he gets more chances on the pp)

I don't see the offense there for Gryz. Although, I will admit he looked good stepping in the Krug on PP1.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Grzelcyk = Poor man's Duncan Keith, Brian Rafalski, Duncan Keith (taking off the poor man's)....Anyone else?

 

[rocketdan9]

I don't see the offense there for Gryz. Although, I will admit he looked good stepping in the Krug on PP1.

So you didn't notice the upper deck goal and beautiful one time setup to pasta (can't be overlooked)

those are skill plays ....and not any D can execute

 

[DrJustice]

Grzelcyk = Poor man's Duncan Keith, Brian Rafalski, Duncan Keith (taking off the poor man's)....Anyone else?

The rich man's 2017-18 Duncan Keith

 

[wintersej]

So you didn't notice the upper deck goal and beautiful one time setup to pasta (can't be overlooked)

those are skill plays ....and not any D can execute

Oh for sure, I meant more from an offensive zone IQ perspective than from a skills perspective. I'm not saying he had sub-par offensive IQ by ANY means, just that you don't see the successful creativity like you do with a Krug in the offensive zone...

...that being said, he is also a rookie trying to do the smart thing, so maybe he has more to show. Krug just had that part of the game down right away. Easy to forget that Gryz is 24 and Krug is 26 (albeit almost 27).

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Grzelcyk = Poor man's Duncan Keith, Brian Rafalski, Duncan Keith (taking off the poor man's)....Anyone else?

I think Grizz is going to be like a middle - class version of Drew Doughty. Not quite poor mans but close.

 

[Bmessy]

Would love to sign this kid to a 4 year deal this offseason. Lock him up as at worst a bottom pairing dman and if turns out to be a top 4 in a couple years player then you have him at a bargain for a little.
He has certainly benefited playing bottom pair and 16 mins a night, I'm curious to see what he could do with a heavier workload. (last couple games have shown well)

 

[JP Nolan]

The rich man's 2017-18 Duncan Keith

He is "technical" in his approach much like Keith. He seems to do things from his brain to motion extremely quick. He processes a lot like Keith in that everything is done simply as part of the same process. He does not deviate from his first reaction ever, because it is always correct.

There have been all time great players his size at the position. ZUBOV and REJO REJSOLAINEN (sp) are two that come to mind. He also has a little Housley in his game. He will get better with confidence. Once those guys got hurt last night, He took over.

 

[rocketdan9]

Oh for sure, I meant more from an offensive zone IQ perspective than from a skills perspective. I'm not saying he had sub-par offensive IQ by ANY means, just that you don't see the successful creativity like you do with a Krug in the offensive zone...

...that being said, he is also a rookie trying to do the smart thing, so maybe he has more to show. Krug just had that part of the game down right away. Easy to forget that Gryz is 24 and Krug is 26 (albeit almost 27).

Krug creativity is mainly displayed on the PP. Otherwise he takes alot of chances trying to connect long passes

Grz does not (or as much) and thus less turnovers. Plus the way Grz was able to create that scoring chance and score.... I don't think Krug could have done that. Bc he is not nearly good of a skater as Grz

 

[wintersej]

Krug creativity is mainly displayed on the PP. Otherwise he takes alot of chances trying to connect long passes

Grz does not (or as much) and thus less turnovers. Plus the way Grz was able to create that scoring chance and score.... I don't think Krug could have done that. Bc he is not nearly good of a skater as Grz

He is not close to the skater Grz is, that we certainly agree on.

Krug, even just at 5 on 5, is 6th in the whole NHL in p/60 (min 500 mins). He is obviously doing something right.

 

[rocketdan9]

Yikes, this is how players get overrated fast.

I have no problem with Grizz as the bottom pairing LHD moving forward but he has a lot more to prove to be in the discussion with Rafalski.

Why only pigeonhole him into a 3rd pair role? (and for the long term)

I see more promise than that

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Why only pigeonhole him into a 3rd pair role? (and for the long term)

I see more promise than that

Because at this point in time, he’s the 3rd best LHD on the team? Maybe long term he’ll be better in a higher role, but right now, everyone healthy, he’s a 3rd pairing defenseman.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

I don't see the offense there for Gryz. Although, I will admit he looked good stepping in the Krug on PP1.

Give it a couple years and re-evaluate.

I'm not saying he is a lock to become an elite offensive D man but its absolutely possible. Hopefully he signs a long team friendly deal this summer because he doesn't have to score that much to likely price himself out of Boston.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

So you didn't notice the upper deck goal and beautiful one time setup to pasta (can't be overlooked)[/B]

those are skill plays ....and not any D can execute

He is already better than Krug defensively, It will be interesting to see him run the PP while and If Krug is out. Love the kid, very under the radar diamond in the rough .

It's no secret half the league try to steel him at the deadline.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Grzelcyk = Poor man's Duncan Keith, Brian Rafalski, Duncan Keith (taking off the poor man's)....Anyone else?

Duncan Keith, is that the guy with 2 Norris Trophies and a Conn Smythe Trophy?

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Duncan Keith, is that the guy with 2 Norris Trophies and a Conn Smythe Trophy?

We have a poor man's version of him.....However, said poster has stated that the more he watches him, the easier it'll be to drop the "poor man's". Can't make this shit up. I think we should just allow him to be Matt Grzelcyk, but that's just me.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

We have a poor man's version of him.....However, said poster has stated that the more he watches him, the easier it'll be to drop the "poor man's". Can't make this **** up. I think we should just allow him to be Matt Grzelcyk, but that's just me.

Yep, he's been a treat to watch this season.

 

[maxbme]

Grzelcyk = Poor man's Duncan Keith, Brian Rafalski, Duncan Keith (taking off the poor man's)....Anyone else?

Here's one that @BadBruins triggered in my brain by mentioning the Predators, Ryan Ellis. Similar size, dynamic & mobile, smart and smooth with the puck. Isn't an offensive specialist, but very capable with PP time and probably best in transition.

Closer comparison than Krug at least.

 

[TaroTsujimoto]

Grizz isn't in Krug's league offensively, but I see no reason why his production can't at least match Morgan Rielly's (adjusting for minutes and opportunity, of course). It's not like Rielly has great offensive talent - he is just an elite skater, which Grizz is also. I think Grizz can be an offensive force if he adopts the right mindset.

 

[TaroTsujimoto]

Btw, Grzelcyk is the most difficult name ever. No one in the spelling bee would get that one right.

 

[PB37]

So you didn't notice the upper deck goal and beautiful one time setup to pasta (can't be overlooked)

those are skill plays ....and not any D can execute

Peter Cehlarik: best passer on the Bruins.

 

[00BW]

Btw, Grzelcyk is the most difficult name ever. No one in the spelling bee would get that one right.

It was difficult for me at first too. Once he made the team for good, I realized I needed to learn it. I broke it down into 3 parts and it became easy to remember.

Gr - zel - cyk

Doing it in chunks like that works for me. It's how I learned to remember pi.

3. - 14 - 159

 

[Estlin]

It was difficult for me at first too. Once he made the team for good, I realized I needed to learn it. I broke it down into 3 parts and it became easy to remember.

Gr - zel - cyk

Doing it in chunks like that works for me. It's how I learned to remember pi.

3. - 14 - 159

His name, I think, should be pronounced Gri-ZELL-chick, but it's GRIZZ-lick, isn't it? Odd.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

It was difficult for me at first too. Once he made the team for good, I realized I needed to learn it. I broke it down into 3 parts and it became easy to remember.

Gr - zel - cyk

Doing it in chunks like that works for me. It's how I learned to remember pi.

3. - 14 - 159

This needs to be done for Krejci as well.

 

[chizzler]

His name, I think, should be pronounced Gri-ZELL-chick, but it's GRIZZ-lick, isn't it? Odd.

I was thinking the same thing.