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A Ceci + White + 1st + Lazar package isn't one that I'd HATE... But.. Duchene is our best shot at getting a legit top pairing D prospect, and not getting one back is like.. Why bother if we can't get that?
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A Ceci + White + 1st + Lazar package isn't one that I'd HATE... But.. Duchene is our best shot at getting a legit top pairing D prospect, and not getting one back is like.. Why bother if we can't get that?
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Context is key... In the ROR deal the centre piece filled a need for the avs. White doesn't.
Avs got a good deal out of that all things considered.
Ceci has been playing tough minutes all season and HFboard fans have been fairly critical, so I don't blame you for being skeptical.
By all accounts he is well regarded around the league. He's a 23 yr old, 20 minute a night, two-way defenseman, on a good bridge deal, with 250+ games of NHL experience.
Those types of players don't grow on trees.
If I was an Ottawa GM and the cost of Duchene was Ceci, White, and a 1st, I probably pass. I'm not saying I wouldn't wrestle with it for days mentally, but Ceci is a very big piece. Personally, I'd put him very closely in value to Chabot.
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I think Beuchemin has to be protected in the expansion draft, which would make it a no go for Ottawa. Can you imagine trading Ceci, and losing Methot to Vegas?
If Duchene is moved you damn well better believe he'll net a better/more promising defenseman than ROR did. I don't care about the +'s...if Chabot isn't in the deal Sakic will have lost any and all confidence.
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Isn't it up to the acquiring team to honor the NMC once it's waived, or is that only for NTCs?
Iracundia
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If it is Ceci then Sakic has failed the Avs and should be strapped to a rocket and fired towards the Sun. I hope Sakic is just trying to promote a final rush from the other interested teams to step up their TDL offers.
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Man that's some sales job... You should be a salesmen.
Ceci is not a 2 way defender. Like at all.
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I am pretty sure that rule pertains to NTCs that weren't in effect at the time of the trade. IE Subban was traded before his NTC kicked in so Nashville had the option of choosing whether to honor it.
It might also pertain to a NTC a player waives, but I am unsure.
If Beauchemin were coming to Ottawa, he'd probably have to agree to waive his NMC prior to getting traded because there would be no way the Sens would add someone they'd have to protect on defense that isn't better than Methot or Phaneuf. That'd make no sense.
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Avs should get an above avg young player +2 first rounders. Anything else would not be a good deal.
If the trade does happen, I sincerely hope you have to eat your words.
Nothing would make me happier than watching Ceci play well for the Avs like I know he will.
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For Duchene? It wouldn't really help at all. Avs won't want to wait potentially two years just to try and draft a decent prospect. Especially considering the trade would put Ottawa in a good position so the picks would be most likely in the 18+ range of the draft. Then potentially wait another two or three years for that player to develop.
They can just trade for a player/players already there that fits in better with the core of the team.
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Too many forwards coming back and no blue chip defender. Pass. The whole reason why we're considering trading a forward for defense is because we suck at drafting D and we're heavy on forward depth. This org can develop forwards like nobody's business.
Kudos for knowing about our secret weapon in Beaudin, though. He's a dark horse to have a great NHL career.
Carl Carlson
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I feel like the Avalanche should be focused on getting a top level D as return for Duchene. I would imagine they'd be looking to do something similar to what Columbus did for RyJo.
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Wow. Massive + for knowing who Beaudin is. I'd be quite mad if they got Ceci AND the plus is brown personally.
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I just assumed he was on mobile and it auto-corrected Beauchemin.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=172210
IslandersFan17
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I'd be very surprised if the Avs didn't get a blue chip defender back.
That, if anything is the reason they are willing to move Duchene, no? To improve drastically on the backend.
That, if anything is the reason they are willing to move Duchene, no? To improve drastically on the backend.
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He's actually pretty good at generating offense he's just been stuck in a pure shutdown role this season.
If that Ott package is the best one on the table then the Avs should absolutely just hold onto Duchene until something else comes up. They have 2 years and there is no rush. That deal screams Seguin 2.0
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