Dr. Ogrodnick
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Yeah, fully expecting Glen to re-sign him.
Oh, bathgate......you know how I feel about this. Just getting riled up about the trade again.To me, it is not about Callahan winning the Cup and MSL not winning the Cup. Obviously, teammates and not individuals win or lose the prize. I just can't understand giving away two first rounders in the trade. I could not rationalize the trade then nor now.
Please do not tell me about all our third round gems. Just imagine haven two more valuable assets given the way we do draft. MSL was only coming to us. Why throw in the draft choices?
The way that I look at it is that mitigates the effect. It never nullifies the effect. 4 years with no 1st rounders is painful.And yes, losing first rounders year after year is a dangerous game, Kevin Hayes and good drafting in the 3rd round make up for it, but not totally, assets are assets.
Bathgate, the math never made sense in that trade, unless you subscribed to the idea that the market was low on talent and experience come last years deadline. That should have driven up the price, but another first seemed excessive.
And yes, losing first rounders year after year is a dangerous game, Kevin Hayes and good drafting in the 3rd round make up for it, but not totally, assets are assets.
The way that I look at it is that mitigates the effect. It never nullifies the effect. 4 years with no 1st rounders is painful.
I'll still never understand: who was Sather bidding against?
Not sure what Zuccarello has to do with this.
The fact is MSL was brought in to be a big piece of this team — not a third liner who needs favorable match ups.
He's not scoring goals, he's not making his linemates better. I don't actually see all that much leadership out of him.
That you are even suggesting that he needs all these things
Just curious, how does the trade look if MSL and the Rangers fail to win a Cup but Callahan and the Lightning do?
Oh, bathgate......you know how I feel about this. Just getting riled up about the trade again.
Turn out the lights. The MSL party is over. Wish it was not the case, but it is. And those lost picks are going to hurt.
Okay, I will rile you up.After 27 years of loyalty and season tickets, I immediately cancelled my subscription the day Redden was signed. Sather always reverts to obtaining the aging star in decline(MSL) or the named player at the deadline(Yandle) to make a splash. More fuel for the fire. Back in the day, Edge, you, me, I believe SBOB all wanted Tarasenko. Imagine him on the team last year. Perhaps a Cup. Certainly no trade for MSL as Tarasenko does play the right side. Although Gordie Clark has done a good job, a monumental whiff on that draft.
We did miss on that draft but things can not be looked at in a vacuum. It would be great to have Taresenko but how many playoff series has Taresenko won as great as he has played? I think the answer is 0? Our team must be doing something right since we have probably won as many playoff series as anyone in the last 4 seasons.
We did miss on that draft but things can not be looked at in a vacuum. It would be great to have Taresenko but how many playoff series has Taresenko won as great as he has played? I think the answer is 0? Our team must be doing something right since we have probably won as many playoff series as anyone in the last 4 seasons.
Whatever you are trying to say, I don't get it.
We did it without McI or Tara. In any case we have been/ still are weak on RW and Tara would have been exactly what we needed. The D pool wasn't deep either though at that time. Issues we had was toughness and scoring, they went with the toughness pick ... can't change it now anyhow. But Tara would be the **** on this team, no question about it.
And we could have won 10 series more than any other team, the Cup is the only thing that matters. And Tara would have helped us more than McI has so far, but hopefully he will at some point ...
You have just summed up sather's tenure here. But that is a topic for a different thread and time.For every good move we make, we end up making a ****ed up **** move that forces us to make another adjustment.
The trade was already a bad one, but Callahan was a goner with his demands anyway. Callahan also completely disappears in the playoffs, so if TBL wins, it will be in spite of him. It won't bother me one bit.
Bathgate, the math never made sense in that trade, unless you subscribed to the idea that the market was low on talent and experience come last years deadline. That should have driven up the price, but another first seemed excessive.
And yes, losing first rounders year after year is a dangerous game, Kevin Hayes and good drafting in the 3rd round make up for it, but not totally, assets are assets.
Agreed. Hayes and Buchnevich are going to have to be elite players in this league to even come close to nullifying the loss of those picks. God help us if any of the guys in the range where we would have picked end up being elite talents in their own right.