Marc Bergevin - Kickstart My Heart Edition
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Habs Halifax
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Totally agree about Beaulieu. Our GM screwed up on this one for sure. I bet you he doesn't make this choice again if he had to do it over again. As for Markov, I am unsure. All depends on what he was asking for in that 1 year deal. Rumors was $6M for 2 years and then he said he would of taken a 1 year deal. If he was asking for something like $7m, then I would of passed myself.
They still would've taken Emelin, it wouldn't have mattered. They, LVK, had a chance to trade for Beaulieu after and they didn't. Had we kept Beaulieu, we'd still be 1-6-1, except it would cost 2.5m$ for the next 3yrs......no thanks
Benn was protected over Emelin, Beaulieu was gone the day he was scratched in the most important game of our season.
I don't think the Habs were interested in giving a raise to Beaulieu to play on their 3rd pair.
You cite Gardiner as one example...that's fine, I could other examples of guys who didn't eventually "get it"
Gardiner is Gardiner...he's not Beaulieu.
Once more, I'll agree Beaulieu is better than Benn...but he's not THAT much better.
Not for a 3rd pairing Dman
Habs Halifax
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Our LD depth would be better than it is now. Sorry, I like the raw skills Beaulieu has and we don't know if he will put it all together or not yet. I realize he has inconsistency issues but he is a big body that can skate. We gave up on him to early IMO. Heck, maybe we don't even need to sign Alzner in this case if we have both Emelin and Beaulieu too. I don't mind the Alzner signing but I like Emelin/Beaulieu vs Alzner
Habs Halifax
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Beaulieu is still only 24. That is a very young NHL defenseman. You don't give up on guys that early IMO. A 2 year deal at $2.5M would of not hurt this team. 2nd pairing or 3rd pairing.
I didn't like protecting Benn over Beaulieu back when it happened and now that Benn has digressed, I hate it now! Some people say Sergachev was Markov's replacement but Beaulieu was Markov's replacement. Not the same talent but he looks better on our roster vs Benn I tell you!
I don't think they gave up on him...
Squeezed out about as much as they could from him.
Hey, if he ends up turning into a Jake Gardiner in Buffalo...let me know.
Until then...his age ain't nothin' but a number
If Beaulieu ends up puting it all together, I'll eat crow, I just believe that day will never happen......I see a Ron Hainsey future ahead of him, a mehhhh career
Habs Halifax
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Beaulieu has also regressed from what I've seen......at least Benn has the excuse of never being drafted and gets paid peanuts......Beaulieu, not so much
NobleSix
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Sure about what? DLC's credibility? Yeah. I've yet to see a DLC originated story turn out to be true.
They reported two seasons ago that Plekanec was about to be traded and that he sold his house and was looking at houses in another city. That didn't happen.
They reported that there was some big scandalous news about Price that was going to come out that Price was trying to cover up legally. That never came up and no other source corroborated that story.
They reported that some scandalous news about MB was going to come out the other week. That didn't happen.
Now they're reporting that Galchenyuk went to rehab over the summer? The guy was out of country with his family for the large majority of the off-season. I don't buy that he was in "rehab". I think that's 100% bullshit.
I'm I positive that it didn't happen? No, but if it's a DLC original rumour then it's safe to say based on their track record that it's more tabloid shit.
I don't want to get into players personal lives...so I won't touch this.
But I will say is that the NHL has as much of a substance abuse problem as other professional sports where players get arrested or suspended A LOT more often.
NHL has a squeaky clean image...one day it will get exposed.
I'm positive of that
Beaulieu has a whole 2pts while Benn has 1....lol....clearly Beaulieu is the much more productive player.
Beaulieu has also played over :30mins more of hockey in more favourable situations.......like you said though, we're splitting hairs in quarters, I'd just rather pay 1.1 on the cap then 2.5 all while holding onto a 3rd round pick
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Short sample size much? Benn played 13 games with the Habs, how is that indicative of outplaying Beaulieu who logged in 74 games as a Hab last year?
That's right, you didn't allow Benn enough games to expose the journeyman/7th D that he really is.
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Based on that, Galchenyuk demoted on the 4th line in the playoffs last year means he's hot garbage. A player's usage must always establish what the player is worth. Nice to know.
NobleSix
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Neither do I...and even if he's legit, I got no respect for someone who profits from exposing people's problems like that
Adam Michaels
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Funny thing about that quote...I bet there's a quite a few gm's who would agree with that
I don't btw
DAChampion
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Bergevin has to maintain a human relationship with these guys, so it's plausible that he doesn't want to piss them off, for example by calling Chiarelli and offering a 7th round draft pick for McDavid.
The issue here is that he overrated Weber. I think Bergevin thought that he hit the jackpot by trading Subban for Weber, and was caught off guard that it wasn't more celebrated.
Bergevin fired his statistician for arguing against the trade. He may have thought that the guy was a moron for preferring Subban to Weber.
The issue here is that he overrated Weber. I think Bergevin thought that he hit the jackpot by trading Subban for Weber, and was caught off guard that it wasn't more celebrated.
Bergevin fired his statistician for arguing against the trade. He may have thought that the guy was a moron for preferring Subban to Weber.
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Interesting thoughts by Larry Brooks in his latest column.
Rangers are struggling just like the Habs and are looking for solutions.
His thoughts on the state of the market and Alex Galchenyuk:
What top 4D and top six forward could Bergevin possibly have signed this past summer? Can't think of anyone right now.
Now, when Galchenyuk regains his form from two years ago, some more interesting offers are going to come in. It's not going to happen while he remains a 4th liner.
Rangers are struggling just like the Habs and are looking for solutions.
His thoughts on the state of the market and Alex Galchenyuk:
What top 4D and top six forward could Bergevin possibly have signed this past summer? Can't think of anyone right now.
Now, when Galchenyuk regains his form from two years ago, some more interesting offers are going to come in. It's not going to happen while he remains a 4th liner.
Adam Michaels
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Dreger also spoke on TSN690 this morning. He mentioned that the Penguins inquired about Galchenyuk for their 3C spot. He was wondering what it tells people if the back-to-back Stanley Cup Champions believe that Galchenyuk is good enough to be a center, when Montreal is convinced he isn't. Food for thought.
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