GDT: Marc Bergevin @ Guy A. Lepage TLMEP, 8pm, SRC

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

A lot of what MB says is reasonable in a vacuum. It’s just the constant lack of ability to get the job done that’s troubling. I agree good players I rarely traded. I agree it’s not easy to trade away core players. I agree there’s more factors than just how a team looks on paper. It all makes sense. It’s just always something though. At a certain point it’s simple. If you can’t make us a contender via trades then rebuild and build through draft with top picks. The starts quo is embarrassing.

I’m sure this team can be better than last year but how much better? Not enough. Barring JT signing and ya winning lottery we’re spinning our tires here.

You should turn off your predictive texting

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Why would we get a load of jank for Price? He's a good player

Read again please

 

[Genesis76]

If Price stood on his head the entire year, we're talking Hart/Vezina winner again, we maybe get the last Wild Card spot and get swept first round

Good goalie we're in the playoffs my ass

He was amongst the best goalies in the 2017 playoffs and his team couldn't buy a goal, his GMs answer was to get rid of 2 of their top offensive contributors

He was terrible last season, think that's the only accurate thing in your post

You won't have to worry about him much longer I figure though

Why not? Because they might trade him?

Are we not like 2-3 years too late?

I get it you dont trade him after a monster year like 2014 but what about 2015 when he got injured for a whole year? Wasn’t that a big red flag already?

Any way thr issue isnt the goalie’s name. The issue is that we sticker with a player for far too long, we wanted him to become someone he wasn’t made to be.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

You should turn off your predictive texting

You can’t tell me what to do!

 

[Bloumeister]

You're on fire Blou!

I wish I was

I was letting off steam before going to bed last night. My water heater decided to start leaking at 11PM, causing a wee bit of a major spill in the basement

Once the hot water was temporarily shut down, I cleaned up the mess, washed myself with a semiwarmish hand cloth - no cold shower for me - and fired up the old 'shooping machine while my blood was still boiling

I just finished replacing the tank. The basement looks like a special episode of 'Hoarders', but at least the shower tonight will be soooooo good

 

[Bloumeister]

The guys from Spinal Tap are looking at Foxhole and going 'These lads are mocking us'

 

[sampollock]

MB is screwed

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Why not? Because they might trade him?

Are we not like 2-3 years too late?

I get it you dont trade him after a monster year like 2014 but what about 2015 when he got injured for a whole year? Wasn’t that a big red flag already?

Any way thr issue isnt the goalie’s name. The issue is that we sticker with a player for far too long, we wanted him to become someone he wasn’t made to be.

Cause without Price they were/are a lottery team

MB built a team 100% around an elite goalie, if he's on and healthy they make the playoffs, if he's not we are picking Top 10

If they weren't going to surround him with a supporting cast to be a legit contender yes 100% they should've dealt him before the extension but no way MB would go for a rebuild 3 years into his 5 year plan

6 years in and he still can't figure out what direction to go so Carey is making the decision for him

MB will get to blame the rebuild on Carey and buy himself another few years, hell he's already started the smear campaign, same noise he did with PK

You don't think Carey was pissed off after signing an 8 year extension based on false promises from Bergevin and let that affect his play? I don't think there's been a Vezina winning goalie take a nose dive like Price since the days of Jim Carey 20 years ago

Luongo left Vancouver cause he didn't get to start an outdoor hockey game, Pros have their limits on getting treated like shit, ask Patrick Roy...

Price will not be a Hab next season

 

[mariolemieux66]

Cause without Price they were/are a lottery team

MB built a team 100% around an elite goalie, if he's on and healthy they make the playoffs, if he's not we are picking Top 10

If they weren't going to surround him with a supporting cast to be a legit contender yes 100% they should've dealt him before the extension but no way MB would go for a rebuild 3 years into his 5 year plan

6 years in and he still can't figure out what direction to go so Carey is making the decision for him

MB will get to blame the rebuild on Carey and buy himself another few years, hell he's already started the smear campaign, same noise he did with PK

You don't think Carey was pissed off after signing an 8 year extension based on false promises from Bergevin and let that affect his play? I don't think there's been a Vezina winning goalie take a nose dive like Price since the days of Jim Carey 20 years ago

Luongo left Vancouver cause he didn't get to start an outdoor hockey game, Pros have their limits on getting treated like ****, ask Patrick Roy...

Price will not be a Hab next season

I really want you to be right with this. We are not winning with or without Price for a while, let's start that rebuild this summer.

 

[Nedved]

mb doesn't have a high school diploma and he runs a nhl team. it's like hiring an assistant manager from macdonalds to run a fortune 500 company. you think he couldn't ruin the company, but then he's like...just watch me.

 

[justafan22]

They were a lottery team with Price this year. Doesn't make a difference.

 

[Thebesthockey]

seriuosly would mb trade #1 overall pick for pl dubois if habs won draft ??

 

[OnTheRun]

seriuosly would mb trade #1 overall pick for pl dubois if habs won draft ??

No. Literally no one trade their 1st pick once they know they have the first overall. Plus, it would take a lot more than Dubois from the Jackets for them to have anything remotely close to a competitive offer.

 

[Strazzobosco]

Not a story, just my opinion, given an analysis of the situation (and I'm not saying its the only reason): A 3rd generation, reverting to the mean, owner with certain beliefs.

-The handling of the goal celebration with Price
-The carefully crafted language in the media
- "Exuberance"
-"Taming" Subban
Subban benching a shame as NHL conformity wins out
etc. etc.

Subban was captain material in his 30s (limelight absorbing type), but he was never going to be captain in Montreal, that would have meant breaking with traditions that are much older than the Habs.

They have handled the trade like absolute PR pros on this subject (focusing on the return in all their answers). Then, don't ask why Bergevin is still there...he didn't trade Subban.

I suspected opinions on pedigree played a part, who knows as the trade is baffling even today...

If Molson insisted on the trade over MB's objections it would explain a lot, particularly if Molson still meddles today in trades. I find Bergeron rather good at low key trades, and bad at heavy hitting ones. Maybe he's not the one making those player choices.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Vacancies in Carolina and Minnesota all but guarantee two of the best GM candidates in the league will be gone. Making the decision to not fire Bergevin, when he's walking the green mile anyways, an even bigger f*** up.

 

[CHwest]

Vacancies in Carolina and Minnesota all but guarantee two of the best GM candidates in the league will be gone. Making the decision to not fire Bergevin, when he's walking the green mile anyways, an even bigger **** up.

Meh, we're only interested in french gms, doubt there is a conflict.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Meh, we're only interested in french gms, doubt there is a conflict.

Julien Brisebois is the only qualified french GM candidate out there and he's on the shortlist for all vacancies

 

[groovejuice]

Julien Brisebois is the only qualified french GM candidate out there and he's on the shortlist for all vacancies

We're gonna blow this opportunity as well. FU Molson and the garbage you dragged in.

 

[roy munson]

I wish I was

I was letting off steam before going to bed last night. My water heater decided to start leaking at 11PM, causing a wee bit of a major spill in the basement

Once the hot water was temporarily shut down, I cleaned up the mess, washed myself with a semiwarmish hand cloth - no cold shower for me - and fired up the old 'shooping machine while my blood was still boiling

I just finished replacing the tank. The basement looks like a special episode of 'Hoarders', but at least the shower tonight will be soooooo good

The joy of being an owner, right? You should see my Excel file with all the work I have planned... But water spills are the second worst thing that can happen (the first one of course being MB as your new neighbor).

 

[Bloumeister]

The joy of being an owner, right? You should see my Excel file with all the work I have planned... But water spills are the second worst thing that can happen (the first one of course being MB as your new neighbor).

What? I’d love to have Bergevin as a neighbor! I would have traded my old water heater for his brand new one, AND gotten him to pay for the install

 

[PecnoTrunk]

No. Literally no one trade their 1st pick once they know they have the first overall. Plus, it would take a lot more than Dubois from the Jackets for them to have anything remotely close to a competitive offer.

I would do #1 overall for

Pld
Murray
Boone Jenner

 

[habsgirl5000]

MB is screwed

the team is screwed, and nobody is going to fix this in one or two seasons,

i have watched every game of the boston toronto series, watching them play makes me realize just how bad we are....these 2 teams are miles ahead of us, they make us look like a AAA midget team

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Might compete in 7-8 years. Looking forward to price weber alzner shaw drouin being off the team.

 

[Laurentide]

the team is screwed, and nobody is going to fix this in one or two seasons,

i have watched every game of the boston toronto series, watching them play makes me realize just how bad we are....these 2 teams are miles ahead of us, they make us look like a AAA midget team

Not only that. Neither one of Boston or Toronto has a hope in hell of beating Tampa in the next round. The Bolts are even further ahead.

 

[Tyson]

Not only that. Neither one of Boston or Toronto has a hope in hell of beating Tampa in the next round. The Bolts are even further ahead.

I don’t agree. I think Boston can beat them.