Managerial merry go round part II

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

He's not getting sacked, and he hates Bayern anyway. People need to stop with this. They would have to pay him off 25 or 30 million, which is a lot of money for Liverpool. Keita is only coming because Klopp is there. van Dijk only wants to go to Liverpool because Klopp is there. As soon as he goes, people wouldn't get the players they want so bad.

He needs to send the **** players where they belong. There's only two of them who are regulars in the team anyway. End of story. The only thing he has really done wrong is he hasn't been quick enough to get rid of the **** the last manager brought in.

It is ludicrous to even think about firing Klopp. As Liverpool have made great strides under him and there's no clear cut better option. However, he is not beyond criticism (not that's what you're suggesting) if pool don't make the top 4... he bears the brunt of the blame IMO.

 

[Live in the Now]

Yeah, it would be his fault, but in that case then you go again. Can't fire someone after two years where they achieved something they shouldn't have been able to achieve without spending hardly any money at all, then one weird year.

The owners are also screwing him because one of the players he wants to keep (Can) wants a release clause and the club refuses to have one put in any contracts.

 

[Vipers31]

I wonder if Kloppo comes to Bayern next year if he gets sacked at Liverpool this year. I would probably prefer him to Nagelsmann but then again, I'd find his need to always talk in media and his sideline thing to be annoying.

Why would anyone but Bayern's opponents want Klopp to manage them? A coach who's biggest issue has been an inability to break down parked busses for a job that largely consists of breaking down parked busses. It's a terrible match. Tuchel is a vastly better fit, and he's actually available.

 

[Evilo]

Bild reports Bayern have inquired about Louis Van Gaal...

Please YES !! Can't stop laughing

 

[Deficient Mode]

Van Gaal did very well with Bayern the first time. They could do worse.

 

[Evilo]

LVG has lost it LOOOOONG ago.

But nice to see you downplay the Blanc possibility and defend the LVG

 

[Deficient Mode]

LVG has lost it LOOOOONG ago.

But nice to see you downplay the Blanc possibility and defend the LVG

Errr, I remember you playing up the importance of Blanc winning L1 with an underdog around the same time as LVG was reviving Bayern. Neither are great options and as a fan of a rival, I would be happy with either. Bayern do need a tactically-minded coach now, though, and LVG is more that kind of coach than Blanc. His tenure at United wasn't nearly as bad as you make it out to be, either.

 

[Evilo]

Incredible you put them in the same basket. Blanc has actually been great with PSG and Bordeaux. LVG hasn''t been great in a decade.
His tenure wasn't as bad? He had the same stats as his predecessor !!!

Bayern needs a coach that can break regrouped defenses. Guess what Blanc did every week with PSG?

 

[East Coast Bias]

Van Gaal is way past it. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy past it.

Enjoy the 1-1 draws and speeches about dominating "poshession"

 

[Cassano]

LvG would be about the worst possible coach for Bayern at the moment.

I hope it happens.

 

[cgf]

Bayern should bring in Hecking and leave Tuchel for BMG to replace him with

 

[Deficient Mode]

Incredible you put them in the same basket. Blanc has actually been great with PSG and Bordeaux. LVG hasn''t been great in a decade.
His tenure wasn't as bad? He had the same stats as his predecessor !!!

Bayern needs a coach that can break regrouped defenses. Guess what Blanc did every week with PSG?

I'm not a big fan of Blanc's PSG tenure. The team was entertaining, but the quality seemed to come from the creativity of his players, and they were really disappointing in big matches. I don't think he would take Bayern to the next level. Of course, either coach could turn Bayern back into a team that dominates the Bundesliga.

Bayern atm needs far more work on their defensive coordination than on their offense. They haven't been struggling to score; but their defense has looked really shaky, and I don't think it's down to the players. Pep's team was a defensive stalwart with a similar group of defenders if not slightly worse.

It has certainly been less than a decade since LvG was unquestionably good, since he took over Bayern less than a decade ago. And as his teams have been more defensive lately, perhaps he would be a good fit.

LvG would be about the worst possible coach for Bayern at the moment.

I hope it happens.

Maybe the worst possible coach whom they'd seriously consider. But I don't know about that even.

 

[Vipers31]

There's a picture out there apparently from tomorrow's BILD that says Heynckes will take over at Bayern for this season. Not entirely positive it's real, but it looks like it, to me.

 

[Vipers31]

Hearing it's real, and saw another page. Heynckes back, Nagelsmann next summer.

 

[Halladay]

Hearing it's real, and saw another page. Heynckes back, Nagelsmann next summer.

I was wondering what Jupp was up to. He is very old for a manager though.

 

[cgf]

Hearing it's real, and saw another page. Heynckes back, Nagelsmann next summer.

If they had had Pep for another year, the Jupp to Nagelsmann plan would set Bayern up to dominate again. But I think Carlo has destroyed too much of the possession structure that Pep left behind. Jupp could settle the ship, but I wouldn't be surprised if he failed to win the league.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Heynckes is never too humiliated to take the Bayern job short term or when his successor is already in place. Feeling optimistic for this season.

 

[Hadoop]

Not a bad move by Bayern if true.

 

[Ceremony]

Regarding age, bottom of the league Falkirk had a 77 year old in charge at the weekend after sacking Peter Houston and they won, so an apparently senile van Gaal might not be so bad.

 

[Bon Esprit]

Hearing it's real, and saw another page. Heynckes back, Nagelsmann next summer.

As stated in the German football thread I actually think it's a good idea.

 

[Vipers31]

As stated in the German football thread I actually think it's a good idea.

If that is what happens, I'm not against it, either. That said, since the Nagelsmann thing is unconfirmed, there's a bit of a question mark out there. If we're just delaying a decision because Tuchel seemed too demanding to Hoeneß, and we don't get JN in the summer, this is dreadful. I mean, there's been half-joking reports about Löw possibly joining after the WC, and then he ended up talking about wanting to become a club coach again right today... I'd die.

 

[cgf]

Watching him fail with Bayern, would settle all of the debates with Jogi apologists.

 

[les Habs]

Imagine having to manage Bayern now with Neuer out. That leaves you with Muller as captain.

 

[Vipers31]

Imagine having to manage Bayern now with Neuer out. That leaves you with Muller as captain.

Which is supposed to be some kind of problem?

 

[Ceremony]

Gordon Strachan out on his arse. The new Scotland manager will now be chosen by Malky Mackay, who you may remember from such texts as... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...scovered-by-Cardiff-chairman-Vincent-Tan.html