Player Discussion Klim Kostin

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Good wheels for a big man getting up ice.

I'm going to go out on a limb, Send down Shore and put Holloway on IR, recall Hamblin and Kostin

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

GWG tonight. Looks like the guy can skate pretty well.

Shot out of a cannon coming out of the box. Comes as advertised as a powerful skating Russian player. Man I'd be pissed if I was the opposition coach watching 24 lolly gag it coming out of the box. Two minutes left in a one goal game. Kliminator read the play and drove hard to the net while 24 went for a public skate.

 

[TheNumber4]

Scored a goal? BRING HIM UP AND STAPLE HIM TO THE TOP 6.

MAKE KLIM HAPPEN.

 

[KlimasLoveChild]

He was dropping the lunch pails on somebodies head the other day after a questionable hit. It would be nice to have that option in the mix. Hopefully he gets the call soon.

 

[McTonyBrar]

I'm going to go out on a limb, Send down Shore and put Holloway on IR, recall Hamblin and Kostin

Kostin has had immigration issues. I think he will be called up when they are clear

 

[McShogun99]

Kostin has had immigration issues. I think he will be called up when they are clear

They probably want him to get adjusted to the systems as well. I think we see him up here by December.

 

[russ99]

Both of those are total trash.

I guess that's depending on what you expect from a 4th line.

Putting up points, no

Taking the own zone starts and not getting sawed off, and getting some cycles in on the offensive zone eating some rest time for the other three lines and an occasional greasy goal, maybe.

 

[belair]

They probably want him to get adjusted to the systems as well. I think we see him up here by December.

The earlier they can get him up the better because he can be sent down without waivers for a month since he's already cleared them.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

hmmm....3 minor infractions,,,hooking tripping histicking....lots of work to do if he wants to ever jump up....move him back to centre...will keep him engaged and he can be a garbage man and clear net and slot....will keep him engaged....

Back to center? He’s primarily been a winger since turning pro

 

[SwedishFire]

I guess that's depending on what you expect from a 4th line.

Putting up points, no

Taking the own zone starts and not getting sawed off, and getting some cycles in on the offensive zone eating some rest time for the other three lines and an occasional greasy goal, maybe.

For me a 4th line should not be an AhL line, as it has become lately. It shoild be a hard forechecking and checking line that may not score a lot, but can defend ok and get a random goal.

1st line - firepower
2nd line - 2way abillity, may have one offensive only winger as a scorer.
3rd line - 2way abillity center, mixed parts of wings.
4th line - forechecking, checking defense

Kane McDavid Yamamoto
Hyman Leon Puljujärvi
Nuge MacLeod Savoie?
Fogele Ryan Holloway

 

[McDNicks17]

The earlier they can get him up the better because he can be sent down without waivers for a month since he's already cleared them.

I believe it's 30 days on an NHL roster not 30 days after clearing, so they'll still have wiggle room whenever they do call him up.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

STL fan checking in to see how KK was doing for you guys. sounds like he didn't make the big roster for you either
shame, kid has all the tools to be reallly good. had high hopes for him

 

[Tarus]

STL fan checking in to see how KK was doing for you guys. sounds like he didn't make the big roster for you either
shame, kid has all the tools to be reallly good. had high hopes for him

With the Oiler's cap issues, he hasn't even gotten a look yet. Don't think he's even had a chance to practice with the big club, went straight to bakersfield.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

With the Oiler's cap issues, he hasn't even gotten a look yet. Don't think he's even had a chance to practice with the big club, went straight to bakersfield.

well.. that's unfortunate. hopefully he gets a chance with you guys at some point
pros: has all the tools
cons: questionable toolbox

 

[Bryanbryoil]

well.. that's unfortunate. hopefully he gets a chance with you guys at some point
pros: has all the tools
cons: questionable toolbox

So far he's scored a goal down there and also won a fight. There was talk that he may have Visa issues and that is why he didn't come right up to Edmonton. Whether that's true or not I don't know.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

well.. that's unfortunate. hopefully he gets a chance with you guys at some point
pros: has all the tools
cons: questionable toolbox

The Oil had a decent # of guys completing for the last roster spot, so they're going to give the ones that earned a chance with a strong TC a look first. It's the same issue Janmark ran into.

So far though Shore's been decent, Ryan hasn't seen much happen in either zone while he's been on the ice, and Holloway's failed to carry a strong preseason over into the meaningful games. So a bunch of "meh."

Personally I'd expect to see KK up in the near future, same with Janmark. Imo, the bottom six would benefit from more speed and physicality. What I want to see is...

Janmark-McLeod-Pulju
Kostin-Malone-Foegele

A speedy 2-way third line, and a 4th line that can hit and cycle.

 

[Cloned]

Kostin can’t possibly be worse than Shore right now.

 

[Oilhawks]

Kostin can’t possibly be worse than Shore right now.

Shore?

He might be better than every RW on the roster right now.

Easily an upgrade to the bottom 6 but I’d try him over Yams and Pulju which are a bunch of f***ing nothing so far. They both need wake-up calls.

When does his work visa shit get sorted out??

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Shore?

He might be better than every RW on the roster right now.

Easily an upgrade to the bottom 6 but I’d try him over Yams and Pulju which are a bunch of f***ing nothing so far. They both need wake-up calls.

When does his work visa shit get sorted out??

Knowing this part of the world, they probably seen what country he's from and his file keeps getting put to the bottom of the pile "somehow".

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

The Oil had a decent # of guys completing for the last roster spot, so they're going to give the ones that earned a chance with a strong TC a look first. It's the same issue Janmark ran into.

So far though Shore's been decent, Ryan hasn't seen much happen in either zone while he's been on the ice, and Holloway's failed to carry a strong preseason over into the meaningful games. So a bunch of "meh."

Personally I'd expect to see KK up in the near future, same with Janmark. Imo, the bottom six would benefit from more speed and physicality. What I want to see is...

Janmark-McLeod-Pulju
Kostin-Malone-Foegele

A speedy 2-way third line, and a 4th line that can hit and cycle.

therein lies the rub..KK isn't a 4th line player. if he's not at least middle six, he's not productive at all. he doesn't drive play.. he benefits from someone else doing it

 

[Oilhawks]

therein lies the rub..KK isn't a 4th line player. if he's not at least middle six, he's not productive at all. he doesn't drive play.. he benefits from someone else doing it

Well, if he can stick it at RW he’s in luck, since the incumbent RW are the worst position on the team (aside from LD)

 

[SwedishFire]

The Oil had a decent # of guys completing for the last roster spot, so they're going to give the ones that earned a chance with a strong TC a look first. It's the same issue Janmark ran into.

So far though Shore's been decent, Ryan hasn't seen much happen in either zone while he's been on the ice, and Holloway's failed to carry a strong preseason over into the meaningful games. So a bunch of "meh."

Personally I'd expect to see KK up in the near future, same with Janmark. Imo, the bottom six would benefit from more speed and physicality. What I want to see is...

Janmark-McLeod-Pulju
Kostin-Malone-Foegele

A speedy 2-way third line, and a 4th line that can hit and cycle.

Yeah.

Lets take away Yamamoto from top line.

Kane McD Leon
Hyman Nuge Yamamoto
Järnmark MacLeod Puljujärvi
Fogele Ryan Kostin
Malone

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Yeah.

Lets take away Yamamoto from top line.

Kane McD Leon
Hyman Nuge Yamamoto
Järnmark MacLeod Puljujärvi
Fogele Ryan Kostin
Malone

I'll agree with this. I'm really not liking Yams with McDavid or Nuge , as the lack of size really become apparent. Imo if he stays in the top 6, he's best with Drai and one of Hyman or Kane.

Personally I think the best first step for Woody would just be to swap McDavid and Drai (so swap each pair of wingers), and then tinker from there.

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Drai-Pulju/Yams
Foegele-McLeod-Pulju/Yams

Though I think they'd be best to go with a hero line of Kane-McDavid-Drai for a few games, and audition all of Pulju, Yams, Foegele, and Holloway next to RNH-Hyamn to see who's the best fit next to them to round out the top 6.

 

[SwedishFire]

I'll agree with this. I'm really not liking Yams with McDavid or Nuge , as the lack of size really become apparent. Imo if he stays in the top 6, he's best with Drai and one of Hyman or Kane.

Personally I think the best first step for Woody would just be to swap McDavid and Drai (so swap each pair of wingers), and then tinker from there.

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Drai-Pulju/Yams
Foegele-McLeod-Pulju/Yams

Though I think they'd be best to go with a hero line of Kane-McDavid-Drai for a few games, and audition all of Pulju, Yams, Foegele, and Holloway next to RNH-Hyamn to see who's the best fit next to them to round out the top 6.

Apperently no one of them. MacLeod has became the 6th best forward on the team, and is needed to take on 3rd line duty, to create depth
If not, there is the depth problem again. But, why not.
Bottom 6:
Yamamoto Ryan Puljujärvi
Malone Nuge/McDavid Fogele

 

[SwedishFire]

I like Hamblin's compete and skill, I'm just not sure who I see as our 4C. It could be any of Hamblin, Ryan or McLeod. IMO McLeod is the best player of the bunch but I'm not sure that he'd be happy with that role given the contract hit he took for the team this offseason.

Kane-McDavid-Puljujarvi
Holloway-Draisaitl-Yamamoto
Hyman-RNH-Foegele
Benson-McLeod-Kostin

That's how I'd roll the lines out. IMO Hyman and RNH together would be awesome for us to exploit other team's bottom 6's.

No way Yam or pulju fits top6.
Not really Holloway either..

Kane McDavid Hyman
Nuge Leon Holloway
Fogele/Shore MacLeod Puljujärvi
Järnmark Ryan Yamamoto