deaderhead28
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A problem child sent away. Maybe could have gotten more for him, but the point was he was gone.The Cammalleri trade is underrated.
A 25 year old 80 point player traded away for almost nothing.
Yes, the Kings need Gavrikov. Problem is, Gavrikov doesn't need the Kings, at all.Gavri is who we need signed. Even Doughty is pulling for that to happen from what he said in his exit interview. If not we are back to square one with big holes on LD. I also think Blake still has hope that Cal can play in the NHL next year. Which would be another blunder.
The only reason you're defending it is because it was a move made by Dean Lombardi.A problem child sent away. Maybe could have gotten more for him, but the point was he was gone.
There was an issue with Cammalleri?
Woah I had no idea he was the Co-CEO of Biosteel. Wow.
He needs the beach, wife needs the shopping and gucci lifestyle. Just don't tell him about the taxes and we are goodYes, the Kings need Gavrikov. Problem is, Gavrikov doesn't need the Kings, at all.
Sounds Florida bound.He needs the beach, wife needs the shopping and gucci lifestyle. Just don't tell him about the taxes and we are good
So alls well that ends well, no?Dean basically traded Cammalleri for a 1st.
Used that 1st, plus another 1st to draft Teuburt.
Then traded Teubert, plus another 1st for Penner.
Gross.
Chasing size always bites you in the ass.
This is true.If I remember correctly, Cammalleri’s agent was Mike Gillis and I know for a fact Dean was not a fan of his.
...and it worked out just fine. Dean once said in public Cammalleri would always be one of the best players on a lousy team. He was correct. Over a 15-year career Cammalleri played in 32 playoff games, and the furthest one of the teams got was the Eastern Conference Final where Montreal lost 4 games to 1 against the Flyers.The only reason you're defending it is because it was a move made by Dean Lombardi.
Lombardi completely squandered Cammalleri.
This is a silly take, and you know exactly why....and it worked out just fine. Dean once said in public Cammalleri would always be one of the best players on a lousy team. He was correct. Over a 15-year career Cammalleri played in 32 playoff games, and the furthest one of the teams got was the Eastern Conference Final where Montreal lost 4 games to 1 against the Flyers.
Take away the season where Montreal went to the Eastern Conference Final and Cammalleri played in 13 playoff games. Mike Cammalleri is not the type of player with which an organization wins championships.
Many fans wanted Cammalleri to be named captain. They were wrong.
Contrast Cammalleri with Brown who over 18 seasons played 92 playoff games, went to the Western Conference Final three times, and won two Stanley Cups.
I'll defend what I posted because Dean was about winning, not stats. BTW care to post anything about Cammalleri's defense, phyical play, or +/- in the playoffs. It isn't just about points.This is a silly take, and you know exactly why.
BTW, Cammalleri was a fantastic playoff player.
Regardless, there's no defense for Dean botching his value. You'll defend it only because it was your guy that did the botching.
I remember someone at dev camp looked at Teubert and said "tell me that's not a first round pick."
I bit my tongue but was thinking "that's not a first round pick."
I have since avoided drawing conclusions based on a camp, but good lord he was unimpressive from day one.
You're being disingenuous because you know one player doesn't determine whether a team wins or loses. Brown wouldn't have won shit if he played for the same teams as Cammalleri.I'll defend what I posted because Dean was about winning, not stats. BTW care to post anything about Cammalleri's defense, phyical play, or +/- in the playoffs. It isn't just about points.
..and of course Cammalleri's teams didn't make the playoffs often, or when they did, they didn't go far. It's just as it was said, "He will always be the best player on a lousy team."
I think I have posted that Dean didn't get full value for Cammalleri. I also said it the greater scheme of things it didn't matter a damn bit. The important thing is he was gone.You're being disingenuous because you know one player doesn't determine whether a team wins or loses. Brown wouldn't have won shit if he played for the same teams as Cammalleri.
Do I need to bust out the career playoff +/- of guys like Mike Richards, Yzerman, Jeff Carter, Selanne, Doughty, Tarasenko etc. for you?
But all I say it again. Regardless of what you think of Cammalleri Dean Lombardi botched and mismanaged him as an asset. The only reason you're downplaying / defending it is because you like Lombardi.
I think I have posted that Dean didn't get full value for Cammalleri. I also said it the greater scheme of things it didn't matter a damn bit. The important thing is he was gone.
It wasn't about saving money. It was about moving Cammalleri.But why?
The money was basically used a year later on an older, less effective player who ended up quitting on the team and wanting out when they wouldn't extend him. And they had to give up a 40 point defenseman to get that player in a trade.
Had they put the money towards Gaborik (which in fairness they did at least attempt to) it would have been different. But you save $6m by trading 25 year old Cammalleri and use it to trade for 33 year old Ryan Smyth making more money than Cammalleri... AND you had to trade assets?
The whole thing was bungled, they should have traded him in 2007 and then put the money towards a way better player than they did.