Guy Larose
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It's the contrary. If they win the cup I think your pick is automatically dead last. That's why the condition for an extra pick since it would be so far.Winnipeg has to win the cup
It's the contrary. If they win the cup I think your pick is automatically dead last. That's why the condition for an extra pick since it would be so far.Winnipeg has to win the cup
i wonder if Hughes kept the retention spot for Savard hes the only one imo that could fetch something good at 50%
Pearson and Allen aint worth nothing maybe a low pick
He drafted better under GaineyWho was the last Habs 1st rounder from Timmins that was actually an impactful player for us? Pacioretty? Next player that comes to mind is Galchenyuk then KK then Beaulieu which isnt ideal at all.
Could see Armia at 50% being a very attractive playoff addition for a team looking to close out games and strengthen their 4th linei wonder if Hughes kept the retention spot for Savard hes the only one imo that could fetch something good at 50%
Pearson and Allen aint worth nothing maybe a low pick
KH is indeed consistent... in the best of waysAfter watching the press conference carefully, I learned nothing...
We need a franchise draft pick , with no real chance at Celebrini, guess we have to look another two years out and suck even more.
I didn't see the retention in the OP, however, I say trade both now.Well we only have 1 retention slot left.
I don't think Allen has any value unless we retain. I don't think we have a chance at a 1st for Savard unless we retain. I could be wrong. may have to trade one by the TDL and the other in the summer.I didn't see the retention in the OP, however, I say trade both now.
Got to keep cleaning house.
The more I think about the more I think you are right. Hughes took just a 1st for Monahan because of the risk of injury and possibly because there might be more centres available closer to the trade deadline. Savard is not an expiring contract so he will probably hold out for more than a late 2024 1st.It’s more so because he plays the right side and it can be harder to find a decent stop gap to eat those minutes until we have our prospects fill in. A 20-32 pick isn’t enough to take a chance on creating a hole like that. If it was an unprotected pick a year from now, obviously I’d listen but I don’t see anyone offering us that.
After watching the press conference carefully, I learned nothing...
I disagree he sucks and overpaid even if one gm would be interested at 50% the return would be bad and we would use a retention spot on him for 1.5 years to get what a 3rd or 4th?Could see Armia at 50% being a very attractive playoff addition for a team looking to close out games and strengthen their 4th line
Or use some picks to get some other team to retain on one of them, if you upgrade the pick you are trading in the deal and get them off the books for next year in the process it is a no brainer, same for Armia.I don't think Allen has any value unless we retain. I don't think we have a chance at a 1st for Savard unless we retain. I could be wrong. may have to trade one by the TDL and the other in the summer.
If the goal is to trade both and you need to retain on both then I think you have to trade Allen at the deadline and Savard over the summer. Savard's value probably doesn't change much if he's sold now or during the summer, but with goalies the market is almost always better at the deadline because in the summer everyone's healthy and you have high hopes for your prospects being able to take a step and make the jump, whereas those things aren't always true at the deadline.I don't think Allen has any value unless we retain. I don't think we have a chance at a 1st for Savard unless we retain. I could be wrong. may have to trade one by the TDL and the other in the summer.
If the goal is to trade both and you need to retain on both then I think you have to trade Allen at the deadline and Savard over the summer. Savard's value probably doesn't change much if he's sold now or during the summer, but with goalies the market is almost always better at the deadline because in the summer everyone's healthy and you have high hopes for your prospects being able to take a step and make the jump, whereas those things aren't always true at the deadline.
If Savard at 50% right now has the value of a late 2024 1st, I very much doubt that in the summer his value will have dropped just because it's now 1 expected playoff run vs 2. If he doesn't have that value, then I'm not sure it's worth making the trade anyways. Yeah there may be good UFA D available, but many will re-sign with current teams or whoever they get traded to, but there's never enough supply to meet demand when compared to goalies.If Savard has trade value, I think it changes a lot from now to the summer. If a team values him, its for two playoff runs and security. There are A LOT of good UFA D-men available this offseason.
Allen has more value right now too, but at the end of the day you retain to optimize value. Whatever works the best. Or use the slot as a 3rd party if no good offers are made/no market is formed.
I suspect Savard's value would be much higher at the TDL.If the goal is to trade both and you need to retain on both then I think you have to trade Allen at the deadline and Savard over the summer. Savard's value probably doesn't change much if he's sold now or during the summer, but with goalies the market is almost always better at the deadline because in the summer everyone's healthy and you have high hopes for your prospects being able to take a step and make the jump, whereas those things aren't always true at the deadline.
Yeah but I haven't seen a team take a pick to retain salary on a player for 2 years.Or use some picks to get some other team to retain on one of them, if you upgrade the pick you are trading in the deal and get them off the books for next year in the process it is a no brainer, same for Armia.
Like what are we talking a 1st at the TDL but only a 2nd in the summer?I suspect Savard's value would be much higher at the TDL.
I don't think Allen will have much value at the TDL 9r the summer anyways.
Hughes said Newhook is close to returningAny word on Newhook? Suzuki will be playing like 30 minutes a night lol