I thought the guy in the 2nd one was the guy who played Job on the TV series Banshee. Maybe it even is him.
OK defensively? Guy gets beaten badly by someone faster/stronger/more skilled every game. He might net a mid round pick.
It's actually more to give up than to acquire. Good teams usually draft well and long term, so they can pick someone who isn't necessarily ready but who will work out in time. The teams acquiring the picks are usually out of the playoffs for a reason, and trying to rush a rebuild, so they pick shorter term and worse.
He's had a rougher year this year. But not like you describe in light of how terrible our entire D has been. I think this is catastrophizing to a degree. He'll get better than a mid round pick (which I assume you mean mid 3rd to 4th), on his own. He can play in the NHL, is relatively young, cheap and still has some upside especially with better pairings. Defensive depth is maybe even more coveted at the TDL than a center. Remember what Chariot obtained? Our entire defense has been a dumpster fire this year. Using your logic, Guhle's value is no more than a 2nd pick.
I like that they did their homework and were ready to talk.
I agree Harris is good, but Chiarot got more return because he's big and did well in his last playoffs.
My read of it is that they probably weren't comfortable in offering Monahan the type of contract he wants in order to forgo testing free agency which is fair since if I was Monahan, I'd also ask for something big if it meant resigning with a rebuilding team and not seeing what my value is on the open market.
He also got a bigger return because of his style of play which is always highly overvalued by GMs come deadline time.
Oh I understand. I am saying if all we're offered is a mid pick for him, I'd hope we essentially hang up the phone. I'd rather keep him under those circumstances. We all know that mid round picks are close to nothing. You're very unlikely to draft a player that ever plays in the NHL, let alone someone at Harris' level.
Without retention... maybe if there's a decent + added.
We need to have some vets around. It can’t just be a complete firesale. We can revisit the Savard trade option next year. I’m sure it would have to be a great offer to get Hughes to even listen this season.
Not getting an add. A 1st would be an overpayment. That's why you have to take it.
Who was the last Habs 1st rounder from Timmins that was actually an impactful player for us? Pacioretty? Next player that comes to mind is Galchenyuk then KK then Beaulieu which isnt ideal at all.
I remember how every offseason Bergy would say big trades are hard and that they dont happen often. All while the GMs around us were busy making big trades...
They have Matheson. Can always sign a vet UFA defenseman. I doubt Hughes would pass up a 1st for Savard (especially if it's team that might not end up top 10 at the end of the year.
Frame this.
I wonder if some GM's wouldn't have anything to do with BargainBin.
It’s more so because he plays the right side and it can be harder to find a decent stop gap to eat those minutes until we have our prospects fill in. A 20-32 pick isn’t enough to take a chance on creating a hole like that. If it was an unprotected pick a year from now, obviously I’d listen but I don’t see anyone offering us that.
