JVR questions

[TheGoldenJet]

In your mind there's an elite piece where the Leafs will be drafting in the 1st round this year? Interesting, yet wildly inaccurate take.

Im sure you realize having two 1st round picks would roughly double the Leafs' odds of landing an elite piece in the 1st round of the draft? Or allow for the possibility to move up in the draft for a much higher 1st round pick?

If JVR is traded for a 1st and a 2nd, Leafs would have two 1st round picks and three 2nd round picks at the 2018 draft. Some combination of those picks may allow them to draft in the top 4-6 of the draft and grab a true blue chip prospect to join the core.

 

[Ulysses31]

would like to see JVR play his heart out this playoffs for a monster contract on another team come free agency

EDIT: but would be just as happy to see a trade

 

[possesthepuck]

Why would you be happy for him to have a monster playoffs than be traded??? Are you trolling the leafs board?

 

[mapleleaf979]

Im sure you realize having two 1st round picks would roughly double the Leafs' odds of landing an elite piece in the 1st round of the draft? Or allow for the possibility to move up in the draft for a much higher 1st round pick?

If JVR is traded for a 1st and a 2nd, Leafs would have two 1st round picks and three 2nd round picks at the 2018 draft. Some combination of those picks may allow them to draft in the top 4-6 of the draft and grab a true blue chip prospect to join the core.

Agreed, its a no brainer to move him. U can then package 3 of those 5 picks. (1) 1st round pick, (2) second round picks for a player u can target at the deadline. That would be appealing to a team doing a rebuild. Leafs would still have a 1st and 2nd round picks in that scenario.

 

[PromisedLand]

Agreed, its a no brainer to move him. U can then package 3 of those 5 picks. (1) 1st round pick, (2) second round picks for a player u can target at the deadline. That would be appealing to a team doing a rebuild. Leafs would still have a 1st and 2nd round picks in that scenario.

If only movie Inception was real and I could plant the idea in Lou's head

 

[rumman]

I don't mind admitting I DON'T know and can't guess what MANAGEMENT is going to do with either of JVR or Bozak.

I've read lots of stuff by really (fairly?) smart people on here, yet, I still have no confidence that I know what's going to happen to these 2 players at the TDL.

What do you think mgmt should do with Bozak and JVR?

 

[Brown Dog]

This talk of JVR being traded just seems kinda silly. We should all know it's not happening.

 

[Rogie]

What do you think mgmt should do with Bozak and JVR?

I would trade JVR for futures before the TDL and roll with the punches in the playoffs without him.

I'd keep Bozak UNLESS there is a very good offer (like a 1st rounder) for him (which I doubt - but could be wrong on this) and then if he walks in the summer and get no return, well, I'd be okay with that.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

This talk of JVR being traded just seems kinda silly. We should all know it's not happening.

Probably won't.
Would be great if it did.

The better the team does from now to the TDL, the less the chance.

 

[BlueBaron]

I'm kind of surprised none of you guys chimed in on the main board GM ranking thread to say Lou is too high for not firing Babcock and not tanking the playoffs. I'm amazed you guys aren't calling for his head.

 

[LeafFever]

This team is tied for 4th overall. What team that high will trade players for picks? We've got to be realistic and believe in the team alittle more.

 

[PromisedLand]

What do you think mgmt should do with Bozak and JVR?

There was a poll I posted at the thread below:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/bozak-jvr-what-to-do.2401133/page-45

Majority of the posters here want to get rid of bozak and jvr

 

[Razz]

This team is tied for 4th overall. What team that high will trade players for picks? We've got to be realistic and believe in the team alittle more.

Exactly this. If we're on the bubble, maybe but not now.

 

[TakeTheBody]

I'm all for trading JVR and i appreciate his time as a Leaf. The problem is this. What you get in return. If it's only picks the team would feel like you're selling out their chances and don't believe in them. If you package him with other players and or picks and get a good defenseman back that's much easier to sell to the locker room. Should be interesting....

 

[Tak7]

Trading a highly sought after pending UFA while in a playoff spot, at the deadline, is hardly impossible.

Just last year, St. Louis did the exact same thing with Shattenkirk, and I'd argue that Shattenkirk was more important to the Blues than JVR to Toronto.

if they could make that move, get a solid return, and then parlay that return into other things (Brayden Schenn), then the Leafs should absolutely be willing to do that with JvR

 

[Bullseye]

If there's a solid offer for this guy I don't care what anybody says - it would extremely short-sighted for the Leafs not to trade him. We are trying to build a winning organization that goes all the way. What does it say to our current players next season that we didn't think we were good enough to win during this playoff run without a guy who isn't here anymore.

Trade him.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

If there's a solid offer for this guy I don't care what anybody says - it would extremely short-sighted for the Leafs not to trade him. We are trying to build a winning organization that goes all the way. What does it say to our current players next season that we didn't think we were good enough to win during this playoff run without a guy who isn't here anymore.

Trade him.

Agreed. It's a Buyer's market though.
I'm not sure a deal comes up that the Leafs will find attractive enough.

 

[airgordo]

Trading JVR would be a losers mentality. This would not send a good message to the locker room.

The bottom line is you need good players to win a Stanley Cup. I know JVR is "soft" but he puts the puck in the net. You need that to win.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Doesn't sound like a slam-dunk no way he's not traded
They get a good offer, I'm thinking he's gone.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Translation: they are looking for offers.

 

[Mess]

Wingers are a dime a dozen and many are on the trade market as a result.A commodity that is easily available both via trade and UFA.

JVR is likely to score +30 goals and Leafs will simply walk away at seasons end..

If JVR were a centre and scoring 30+ goals he would already be resigned and to big money, considered a vital piece of the puzzle moving forward. .

 

[ShaneFalco]

In other words, too damn bad he doesn't play like this a whole lot more

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Wingers are a dime a dozen

This.

 

[Gary Nylund]

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Translation: they are looking for offers.

Be still my heart.

 

[Boutette]

Trading JVR would be a losers mentality. This would not send a good message to the locker room.

The bottom line is you need good players to win a Stanley Cup. I know JVR is "soft" but he puts the puck in the net. You need that to win.

You also need to keep the puck out of your own net. Right not Toronto is #2 in the league in goals for, #15 in goals against. Seems obvious what most needs to be addressed.