Speculation: Jumbo Joe on the way?

Stephen

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I think we may need to consider some younger "old guys."

Eric Staal could be a perfect 3C for us. Wouldn't be relying on him to do very much heavy lifting offensively, has great size, still productive. Also an Ontario guy who grew up a Leaf fan. $3.25 milion cap hit with one more season left on his contract.

Corey Perry would be perfect from a bad attitude, villain type player who can add some grittiness and playoff sandpaper.
 

qqaz

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I know when they got knocked out by CBJ, my first thought was "if we only had a slower and older 4th line C, then this wouldn't have happened."

I like Jumbo. I've wanted to see SJ succeed, just for him. I'd love to watch him lift the Cup. But he has nothing to offer that we need to add.

Maybe the "vet leader" business. But we have guys that you want to win it for already. Anything Thornton would bring is already being done by Spezza.

Don't waste a roster spot on a player that doesn't solve a problem. Find some forechecking PK specialist. Find a better version of Gauthier. Keep Clifford. That's what the bottom 6 needs. Not Jumbo Joe.
 
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nuck

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Thornton - 41 year old - 31 points in 70 games... -19.
Spezza - 37 years old - 25 points in 58 games...-3

Why Thornton over Spezza? I get it in their primes its easily Thornton, but at 41 compared to 37?

It would be Spezz + JT or just Spezz not one or the other, unless Spezza is demanding a big raise. What else can you get for $1M unless it your own home grown tsalent and the Leafs kids are all paid much better than that.
 

Coachcorner

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As bad as Kaberle on the PP back in the day, loved the dude as a player but my God the amount of times I yelled at the TV SHOOT THE F,ING PUCK
McCabe though did shoot that thang so many times. He rang that thang like it was world war III sire.
 

nuck

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Genius Dubas is exploiting the market inefficiencies that other GMs are blinded to though...:sarcasm:

Until his one move runs out.

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Oops it already did :laugh:
 
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moon111

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5 on 5, Joe Thornton put up points at the same rate as Gauthier. Didn't hit. Didn't kill penalties. Was on the power-play for 2 minutes a game hitting 3.30 points/60 there. This would put him about 8th on the Leaf forwards. Maybe the biggest indicator? His 3.04 Takeaways/60? That would be a top 3 forward in that regards for the Leafs. His faceoffs were <50%.
Then again, he was probably playing with players with the same points productivity as Hyman and Engvall.
 

Coachcorner

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5 on 5, Joe Thornton put up points at the same rate as Gauthier. Didn't hit. Didn't kill penalties. Was on the power-play for 2 minutes a game hitting 3.30 points/60 there. This would put him about 8th on the Leaf forwards. Maybe the biggest indicator? His 3.04 Takeaways/60? That would be a top 3 forward in that regards for the Leafs. His faceoffs were <50%.
Then again, he was probably playing with players with the same points productivity as Hyman and Engvall.
Rightly used Joe Thornton is still one of the best faceoff men in the league. San Jose used him differently during his last years in Jose. They put Pavelski, Couture, Hertl etc before him in the circle. Even if Joe was on the ice sometimes. During his earlier career for 15 years he always took the first faceoff with huge percentage. Greatly I might add, reminds me of Sundin in the circle. If The Joe was in toronto, he would be our second go to sucka in the faceoff dot after tavares. Of course matthews takes a lot of them and goodly goodly moogly, but thornton on C would make us even stronga. He would play the second PP and take everythang. He can't play PK at all. He is that slow of a slumb mother sucker now.

But yeah, I would give him a killa chance again. He that strong and heavy. Still bouncing others from his body. A treal twerka. Always yelling and shouting. I would be investing on this club again and selling Thornton 19 jerseys with a smile on my sucka face. And it's like that. WHAT!
 
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kb

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We trade Kadri away for 2 playoff no shows and now we want Joe. Is Dubas this keen on stockpiling playoff no shows?
Kadri was the ultimate definition of a playoff no show. If he wasn't idiotically getting suspended, he was completely MIA on the ice.
 

Mr Knies Guy

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He was on pace for 35-40 points this past season in a limited role.

We could do a hell of a lot worse for a 4th line center on a bargain basement contract that can also be effective on the power play. I'd take him over Gauthier in a heartbeat.
In a heartbeat for sure, it's not even close.
 

hfman

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Joe would fit right in

Toronto is the city where old, washed-up has-beens come to cash in.



 
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cesareborgia

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Instead of bringing in players from the nursing home, how about we just trade for a younger quality, gritty, heart guy like that Kadri kid on Colorado.

You guys think Barrie + Kerfoot could get it done? These two are useless, but other teams might see some value.
 

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