Jaccob Slavin is the best young defenseman in the league

[Grey Poupon*]

https://www.nhl.com/player/jaccob-slavin-8476958



https://www.nhl.com/player/colton-parayko-8476892


dont matter .. but i know who i would take

That's more like it!! Awesome post! That is the best, well-reasoned, and most intelligent post i've see in this thread.

Parayko is objectively and factually, FAR (lightyears) and away the BEST young defenseman in the NHL at this moment. It's so silly to suggest anyone else, tbh.

 

[Dbrownss]

I swear I'd see posts on here about Ghost in 2016, John Klingberg in 2015, etc. Now it's Jaccob Slavin in 2017.

Late round draft choices who were underdogs, yet make a huge impact one season and I'd keep seeing threads on them every single day.

I bet next year a new D will come into the league and they'll barely make threads on Slavin and one all about that new D. I'm telling you.

This is why Blues fan suppressed Parayko threads. Lol nothing worse then an overhyped player that falls flat on their face season 2.


I will say that defensemen that are actually good at defense are more likely to have staying power but fade out of the spot light because flashy offense is the only thing that can keep peoples attention.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I swear I'd see posts on here about Ghost in 2016, John Klingberg in 2015, etc. Now it's Jaccob Slavin in 2017.

Late round draft choices who were underdogs, yet make a huge impact one season and I'd keep seeing threads on them every single day.

I bet next year a new D will come into the league and they'll barely make threads on Slavin and one all about that new D. I'm telling you.

Oh so you're not basing your opinion on anything other than the fact that 2 rookie offensive minded defenseman were over hyped in the past?

I recommend you watch him play.

 

[Sasso09]

Those are the only two guys I'd have to think about. But still, I'd take Slavin first.

You're insane then. Slavin is and has been great but I have a hard time finding anything he does better tun Provorov

 

[Johnnybegood13]

Slavin is a good solid young Dman but I would take Hamilton, Werenski, Klefbom, Ekblad and Jones over him easily.

He's a tier down with the likes of Dumba, Gostisbehere, Provorov and Skjei IMO.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I swear I'd see posts on here about Ghost in 2016, John Klingberg in 2015, etc. Now it's Jaccob Slavin in 2017.

Late round draft choices who were underdogs, yet make a huge impact one season and I'd keep seeing threads on them every single day.

I bet next year a new D will come into the league and they'll barely make threads on Slavin and one all about that new D. I'm telling you.

The comparison would be understandable, if Slavin was a young guy who came into the league and put up an abnormal amount of points right away.

Canes fans are familiar with this. We seriously thought Jamie McBain was hot **** at one time because he scored a lot over a small stretch of games. Turns out, it's hard to keep doing that in this league. You look at the numbers for guys like Gostisbehere and Klingberg and it tells the story.

But Slavin isn't talked about for his offense. He's REALLY good defensively, and has both the body and the skating skills to do that job well going forward. He's doing it against top players already, night in and night out, increasingly with a variety of partners. There's no logical reason he should "regress" defensively, and there's good reason to believe he'll develop at least a little offensively. So the comparison to one-hit wonders doesn't really hold water.

 

[Sasso09]

How are any of these players better than Morgan Reilly?

They all are, by a mile

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

This is why Blues fan suppressed Parayko threads. Lol nothing worse then an overhyped player that falls flat on their face season 2.

While I agree with this in general, this is Slavin's "Season 2" after a very good rookie season.

I will say that defensemen that are actually good at defense are more likely to have staying power but fade out of the spot light because flashy offense is the only thing that can keep peoples attention.

Agree. I got into a similar discussion with a fan that was telling me before that I should "expect" a sophomore slump with Slavin (and Pesce). I disagreed with him/her because of what you said above. Slavin's strength was that he played very good defense, not that he could just put up gobs of points on a PP. While anything could happen, his style of play was less susceptible to the mythical sophomore slump.

And interesting the guy mentions Klingberg in his post. After a rough start, he is playing fantastically right now and will have another 40+ point season and is one of only 2 defensemen on his team that isn't a minus.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Slavin is a good solid young Dman but I would take Hamilton, Werenski, Klefbom, Ekblad and Jones over him easily.

He's a tier down with the likes of Dumba, Gostisbehere, Provorov and Skjei IMO.

At least your not biased.

And putting Gostisbehere and Skjei in the same category of Slavin leads me to believe that you are basing your assessment on a few select stats and haven't watched these guys. Skjei and Ghost get very sheltered minutes on their respective teams. Neither of them play a top pairing role and neither of them kill penalties. Same goes for Dumba, to a lesser extent as well.

 

[AOSC]

Slavin is a good solid young Dman but I would take Hamilton, Werenski, Klefbom, Ekblad and Jones over him easily.

He's a tier down with the likes of Dumba, Gostisbehere, Provorov and Skjei IMO.

I found is funny that you list Dumba and not Brodin but I agree with you.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Brodin is underrated on HF.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

You're insane then. Slavin is and has been great but I have a hard time finding anything he does better tun Provorov

How about shutting down the top offensive players in the game? Look at the +/- leaders in the Hurricanes. Look at their ice time leaders. Look at their team goal differential. And then look at how Slavin is deployed and who he is deployed against. Now consider that Slavin leads all defensemen in takeaways and turnover differential by a country mile.

Honestly, aside from shooting, I have a hard time finding something Provorov does better than Slavin.

 

[Roboturner913]

That's more like it!! Awesome post! That is the best, well-reasoned, and most intelligent post i've see in this thread.

Parayko is objectively and factually, FAR (lightyears) and away the BEST young defenseman in the NHL at this moment. It's so silly to suggest anyone else, tbh.

Objectively? Factually? How so? Because Slavin has two less points than Parayko on the season, while being +17 as compared to Parayko's +3, and has only 12 penalty minutes as opposed to Parayko's 24. Slavin also has better Corsi and Fenwick numbers than Parayko.

I'm struggling to find an objective or factual basis that says Parayko is a markedly better player than Slavin, but by all means, please argue your point.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Seriously people need to start watching this guy before opening their mouths. Just watch. Some of the most uninformed posts I've seen in some time. Why are people so eager to show off their ignorance? So they can hype their own guy?

Newsflash: Slavin being a great young defenseman does not discredit your guy. I'm not even a Canes fan FFS - I'm just a guy who likes good hockey and that is exactly what Slavin delivers.

 

[Roboturner913]

it's all bc he plays for the media darling carolina hurricanes tho

 

[the halleJOKEL]

as a maple leafs fan, i agree that jaccob slavin is the best young defenseman in the NHL

 

[tarheelhockey]

it's all bc he plays for the media darling carolina hurricanes tho

As usual, Cane player gets dumped on because of backlash against the media hype

 

[Roboturner913]

addendum to the Parayko comparo: Slavin also leads the NHL in takeaways, FWIW

 

[Roo Mad Bro]

addendum to the Parayko comparo: Slavin also leads the NHL in takeaways, FWIW

Counting stats like that are pretty subjective and vary from arena to arena.

 

[Lacaar]

He seems to be the flavor of the year for Carolina D-men.

Faulk -> Severson -> Slavin

They all produce one whopper of a season then tail off.

Carolina needs to find a way to keep them playing great consistently.

 

[Roboturner913]

Counting stats like that are pretty subjective and vary from arena to arena.

yeah, i'm sure it's a totally meaningless number, skewed a ton by the #hcanes status as media darlings

 

[the halleJOKEL]

He seems to be the flavor of the year for Carolina D-men.

Faulk -> Severson -> Slavin

They all produce one whopper of a season then tail off.

Carolina needs to find a way to keep them playing great consistently.

...what?

 

[Roboturner913]

He seems to be the flavor of the year for Carolina D-men.

Faulk -> Severson -> Slavin

They all produce one whopper of a season then tail off.

Carolina needs to find a way to keep them playing great consistently.

Severson?

Faulk is on track for his 3rd straight season of 15+ goals and also has the best plus/minus he's had in several years, so idk what you're going for there, either.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

I'd take Jones over him. Lindholm probably too. Although Lindholm has been underwhelming this year offensively, points wise.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Counting stats like that are pretty subjective and vary from arena to arena.

This 1000%. I remember one game where Rinne clearly faced like 10 slot shots and when Corsica.hockey was updated he only faced 2 extra HDSA.