Jaccob Slavin is the best young defenseman in the league

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Matt Benning is a superior player. He doesn't get press because he plays in Edmonton. If he played on a media darling like the Canes, everyone would have Benning in the running for Calder. He's that good.

That's just your opinion though. You have nothing to back this up. You only watch one team. If you watched any other team, this statement may have some validity. You probably can't tell me anything about Matt Benning. Why bother piping up if you don't have any insight to contribute? It's just embarrassing to read.


This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. Carolina is anything BUT a 'media darling' and I'm pretty sure WhiskeyYourTheDevils is a New Jersey fan.

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Matt Benning is a superior player. He doesn't get press because he plays in Edmonton. If he played on a media darling like the Canes, everyone would have Benning in the running for Calder. He's that good.

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Right, that Carolina media at it again.

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Edmonton is like the center of the hockey universe compared to Carolina. I can go around the Web/radio/tv right now and watch people talk about the Oilers for hours.
 

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Edmonton is like the center of the hockey universe compared to Carolina.
You're neglecting the fancy-stat nerds who are in love with the Hurricanes' shot-chucking and lack of penalties, plus the sentimental appeal of teams with fewer blue-collar fans. Look at Puck Daddy and how they swoon over the "great" thing the Canes are allegedly building.
 

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That's just your opinion though. You have nothing to back this up. You only watch one team. If you watched any other team, this statement may have some validity. You probably can't tell me anything about Matt Benning. Why bother piping up if you don't have any insight to contribute? It's just embarrassing to read.

As opposed to your brilliant and detailed insight into Benning>Slavin stating... what exactly?
 

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You're neglecting the fancy-stat nerds who are in love with the Hurricanes' shot-chucking and lack of penalties

OK, so advanced stat nerds like some things the Canes do. Does that amount to a love affair in the media as a whole?

plus the sentimental appeal of teams with fewer blue-collar fans.

You'll have to excuse me, but what exactly in the world are you talking about? Why is there supposed sentimental appeal for teams with supposedly fewer blue collar fans? Why does this supposed appeal exist, and how has it been demonstrated?

Look at Puck Daddy and how they swoon over the "great" thing the Canes are allegedly building.

I know nothing of this "Puck Daddy" so I looked it up. I went through their news feed and literally counted 92 headlines before coming across one that was in any way related to the Carolina Hurricanes. Those included stories about Bobby Ryan's Twitter account, Max Pacioretty helping someone whose car got stuck in the snow, Anthony Duclair getting a marriage proposal from a 4-year-old, and a cute dog dropping the puck at an ECHL Missouri Mavericks game.

Is there seriously some sort of widespread belief that the Carolina freaking Hurricanes, a team that routinely gets mistakenly called by the Carolina NFL team's nickname on a damn daily basis, is actually stealing away headlines and attention from more deserving teams like the Oilers?
 
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You're neglecting the fancy-stat nerds who are in love with the Hurricanes' shot-chucking and lack of penalties, plus the sentimental appeal of teams with fewer blue-collar fans. Look at Puck Daddy and how they swoon over the "great" thing the Canes are allegedly building.

TIL getting respect from Puck Daddy made us a "media darling".

How many NBC games is this worth? If we get enough bloggers, do we get a Winter Classic?
 
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OK, so advanced stat nerds like some things the Canes do. Does that amount to a love affair in the media as a whole?



You'll have to excuse me, but what exactly in the world are you talking about? Why is there supposed sentimental appeal for teams with supposedly fewer blue collar fans? Why does this supposed appeal exist, and how has it been demonstrated?

Look at Puck Daddy and how they swoon over the "great" thing the Canes are allegedly building.

I know nothing of this "Puck Daddy" so I looked it up. I went through their news feed and literally counted 92 headlines before coming across one that was in any way related to the Carolina Hurricanes. Those included stories about Bobby Ryan's Twitter account, Max Pacioretty helping someone whose car got stuck in the snow, Anthony Duclair getting a marriage proposal from a 4-year-old, and a cute dog dropping the puck at an ECHL Missouri Mavericks game.

Is there seriously some sort of widespread belief that the Carolina freaking Hurricanes, a team that routinely gets mistakenly called by the Carolina NFL team's nickname on a damn daily basis, is actually stealing away headlines and attention from more deserving teams like the Oilers?
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Not you, the guy you're quoting. Just sayin'
 

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He's always had it, but you could tell he was reigning it in to get back on defense. He's been super conservative in that regard. But now you can tell he's putting things together. The Vlasic comparison has always been a good one, but IMO he's starting to get on Doughty's level.

Drew Doughty? The one that plays in LA? Obviously I'm a canes fan and I love Slavin, but you gotta reign that in. He's not an elite offensive dman by any stretch. He's contributing. Vlasin is a fine comparison.
 
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Drew Doughty? The one that plays in LA? Obviously I'm a canes fan and I love Slavin, but you gotta reign that in. He's not an elite offensive dman by any stretch. He's contributing. Vlasin is a fine comparison.

I said he's starting to get there, not that he already was
 
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I said he's starting to get there, not that he already was

Say you're on an adventure from Downtown Los Angeles to New York City. DT Los Angeles being Slavin's development origin and NYC as being "Drew Doughty Level"... I would say confidently that you're still in Chino Hills (It's only just begun).

What's-his-face is an okay hockey player, but people need to chill. Doughty is a rare, once-in-a-generation defensemen. Unless Slavin hitches a ride with a defunct Concord plane this summer, it might take years to fulfill this Doughty-level expectation.
 

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Say you're on an adventure from Downtown Los Angeles to New York City. DT Los Angeles being Slavin's development origin and NYC as being "Drew Doughty Level"... I would say confidently that you're still in Chino Hills. This is an okay hockey player, but people need to chill. Doughty is a rare, once-in-a-generation defenseman. Unless Slavin hitches a ride with a Concord this summer, it might take years to fulfill this expectation.

He's no Matt Benning, that's for sure.

I'd be interested in hearing more about your opinion of Slavin. It's always fascinating to see what the human imagination is capable of when it's not burdened by the weight of facts or reality.
 

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Say you're on an adventure from Downtown Los Angeles to New York City. DT Los Angeles being Slavin's development origin and NYC as being "Drew Doughty Level"... I would say confidently that you're still in Chino Hills (It's only just begun).

What's-his-face is an okay hockey player, but people need to chill. Doughty is a rare, once-in-a-generation defensemen. Unless Slavin hitches a ride with a defunct Concord plane this summer, it might take years to fulfill this Doughty-level expectation.

The comparison was made to point out that Slavin is no longer simply a superb stay-at-home defenseman, he's starting to become an excellent two-way guy.

And if you think there is such a huge gap between the two, I suggest you go compare their numbers. They're remarkably not all that far apart.

But please, let's get back to explaining why the Carolina Hurricanes are this media darling unfairly sucking all the attention away from more deserving teams and players. Because I have to say, it's just about the astoundingly insane thing I've read on this message board in the 10 or so years I've been aware of it.
 
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I dunno. Just because the points weren't coming doesn't mean he wasn't showing that level of offensive ability. I can't have been the only guy to pick up on it.

I bet Slavin's had the puck on his stick more in the past 3 months than in the sum of his prior career combined. Not very long ago he played as if he weren't even supposed to have the puck, and got rid of it as quickly as possible. He's now playing a much more significant role in the Canes' transition game, particularly in terms of headmanning the puck and occasionally carrying it into the offensive zone. He's not only playing a larger role in those respects, but showing more aptitude for it than he did previously.
 
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Solid young player, but he's not the best young defenseman in the league. He's in his 2nd pro season and there are rookies that are almost as good right now and even similar aged players.
 

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You're saying that based on what exactly?

I swear I'd see posts on here about Ghost in 2016, John Klingberg in 2015, etc. Now it's Jaccob Slavin in 2017.

Late round draft choices who were underdogs, yet make a huge impact one season and I'd keep seeing threads on them every single day.

I bet next year a new D will come into the league and they'll barely make threads on Slavin and one all about that new D. I'm telling you.
 

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