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Slavin is far superior to Jones defensively and Jones is already very good defensively, so yeah...
Jaccob Slavin is the best young defenseman in the league
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Slavin is far superior to Jones defensively and Jones is already very good defensively, so yeah...
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They do vary, and typically Carolina seems to award more, but he's still 4th in road takeaways among defensemen.
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Curious, can you back up your assertion with any data or facts?
tarheelhockey
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This is what happens when a team suffers from such heavy media overexposure. People just assume players are on our roster.
Reminds me of the time that I had to explain that no, Sidney Crosby is not our starting center. This guy was absolutely sure of it, probably because he was having Hurricanes hockey shoved down his throat 24/7.
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As a Devils fan I can assure you that Severson is not even in the same stratosphere as Slavin - he gets lost in his own zone way too often (though he's gotten better). And as a guy who watches probably 20-30 Canes games a year, I can assure you that Slavin is significantly better than Faulk.
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Remember that thread celebrating 20 consecutive years of Hurricanes players winning the Art Ross, Richard, Norris, and Vezina?
Unbelievable luck in drafting.
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What do the Devils have to do with this? The poster said Carolina D-men. He knows what he's talking about.
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You know what they say, a defenseman had a good night if you didn't notice him on the ice.
Severson's apparently been having a multitude of good nights for the Canes, since I never see him out there.
Severson's apparently been having a multitude of good nights for the Canes, since I never see him out there.
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Imposter!!! Leafs fans would say he's crap and we'd be lucky to get JVR for him.
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Actually, I think Leafs fans, for the most part, recognize that a guy like Slavin is exactly what they need and wouldn't even try to low-ball an offer for him. Even though they'd prefer a RHD, Slavin would make their team so much better and he can play effectively on the RH side.
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yeah as a leafs fan i think we would easily trade marner or nylander + bozak
for him
for him
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Another notable stat - he's 14th among defenseman in non-PP points, ahead of guys like Doughty, Pietrangelo, Werenski, Shattenkirk, McDonagh, Seabrook, Handle etc.
Obviously, being effective on the PP is not a trivial skill, but he's a respectable 27th among dmen in 5v4 P/60 - he just doesn't get the minutes because he's so valuable elsewhere and the Canes have guys who can play that role.
Obviously, being effective on the PP is not a trivial skill, but he's a respectable 27th among dmen in 5v4 P/60 - he just doesn't get the minutes because he's so valuable elsewhere and the Canes have guys who can play that role.
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As usual, Cane player gets dumped on because of backlash against the media hype
It's not like your homeristic fans help it any either. We're constantly getting threads invaded by Canes fans talking about how awesome their team is and how many future stars they have. It gets old. You kind of have to expect a backlash as a result. Really, y'all need to learn to police your own.
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Been saying this for months, good to finally see someone else say the same thing.
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Takeaways are a bad stat anyway. Ideally you would want your team to have the puck. Having a lot of takeaways just means the other team has the puck a lot while Slavin is on the ice. Therefore he sucks.
Lol......Provorov is a tier below Ekblad, Klefbom and Werenski? Nah, he's better than all
Shooting
Skating
Passing
Overall Offense
And ill argue he's better defensively.
Provorov is better than Slavin and no GM takes Slavin here.
Hes not better the Jones. compared to Werenski I guess its if you like the extra offense or the extra defense
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You simply saying it, does not make it so. Try backing up your argument with, well, anything. Statistically speaking, there certainly isn't anything to make me believe Provorov is on Slavin's level, at all. Slavin has more points, better plus-minus, less PIMs, more icetime, more blocked shots, more takeaways, less giveaways, better Corsi, better Fenwick, better PDO, more points/60. Literally the only thing Provorov has on him is hits.
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Hahahahaha.
Oh wait you were serious? Ok, go ahead and make your argument for Provorov being a better defensive player than Slavin. I could use a good laugh. Slavin blows Provorov out of the water defensively. Offensively it's close, slight edge to Slavin because of his skating and composure.
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I don't follow. Why is this so funny?
Slight edge to Slavin for qualities that Provorov is highly regarded for? They've got about equal ES production
Not sure Id use skating as an arguement against Provorov, hes a great skater. Defensively its Slavin as it sits now though. there is usually some weird arguement against players that play on a team with other good players so Slavin having other good D to play with automatically makes him worse then someone with no good players to play with
