Speculation: Isles Potential Trade Targets at D/G

Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by QuadDeuces, Dec 5, 2017.

  1. LeapOnOver

    LeapOnOver Lemieux who?

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    Take this in a heartbeat if it's a deadline deal and Tavares hasn't signed....sadly I'm sure it will go to the offseason and we'll have to wait and see.
     
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    LeapOnOver Lemieux who?

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    We've tried that route. That's why we get lottery picks, lol. In our conference and division you "let a goalie play through struggles" and by the time he snaps out of it you are in last place. That stuff might fly in the Western conference, but not here.
     
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    To be frank I'd rather give Pulock the ice time. Why throw away the first in the expansion draft to protect him if we're not gonna use him.

    It's silly to me to expend assets to further block Other assets for short term solutions. Pulock still needs to clear waivers so sooner or later we need to find out if he's worth anything or not.

    All we've been doing is devaluing him as an asset..if We acquire short term defender Im gonna be pissed. Pelech wasn't lights out at first either but he played and got better. And we already know Pulock can help the power play.
     
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    You are incorrect about that. The closer we get to the deadline the more Green is going yo be worth as the best available defensemen. Since he will be a UFA Detroit can retain salary as well. There could easily be a bidding war for his services with teams going for it.
     
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    The closer we get to the TDL the more teams will have dropped put of the playoff picture and more options could be available.
     
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    Way too much parity in the league to presume that. In fact, it's more likely to be the opposite seller's market.
     
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    Good to hear!! Thanks for reading it and giving it a chance that most of the fans refused to!! Most fans just saw JT and wouldn't understand my situation was only if he said he wouldn't sign and and told the islanders to trade him and get a return.

    Now would you send back a D or prospect D with him? It Would be someone we could put in Cleveland as a hopefully one day 2nd pair replacement for Savard but we should have 7 guys here omce we traalde him anyways.
     
  8. Pheasant the peasant

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    Lots of Eastern teams let their goalie play through a rough patch. Philly just lost 10 in a row and only let Neuvirth play 2 of them, sticking with Elliott. 4 of those losses he let in 5 goals. But some of those games weren't on him, so they stuck with him and now the whole team is playing better. And there's no goalie controversy.

    Andersen had a terrible start to the season, as he did last year. In the middle of the rough patch he had a 3.6 GAA and .890 S%, but they stuck with him. Now he's only had 2 regulation losses in his last like 12 games, with a sparkling .922 S%.

    Scott Darling has only 1 regulation win in his last 6 games (1 in relief). But it seems Carolina is sticking with him.

    I understand what you're saying. The Islanders have had lots of goalie struggles since DiPietro. And I'm not even saying that just running with one of them is sure to work out. But Hasn't the Halak/Greiss platoon/tandem plan already been proven to not work? Just like dozens of other goalie tandems failed in the past like Reimer/Bernier or Lehtinen/Niemi or Pavelec/Helebyuck (who sure looks good now that he's the man). Murray/Fleury worked better when one guy was just the guy, not splitting time. Why stick with a losing formula?
     
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    This is just false because it is out of context. The Halak/Greiss tandem has given the Islanders the best goaltending that they've had in recent memory. The last two years NYI have been league average in SV%. That's miles ahead of where they were (bottom-5).

    Personally, I think Halak is just going through a rough patch. But given the 2017 NHL, Halak's play is better suited to the game and I think he'll end up playing more and doing better.
     
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    Well I'm sure Islanders fans would know better than me how the tandem has been. But I am posting in a thread asking for a new goalie to take their place. I don't think suggesting they ride one of them is more insulting than suggesting they replace them both.

    Maybe it is a bit out of context for the last 2 seasons. But it sure isn't out of the context of this thread. They're not working.
     
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    You said "But Hasn't the Halak/Greiss platoon/tandem plan already been proven to not work? Just like dozens of other goalie tandems failed in the past [...]?"

    The answer to that is "No." Halak playing a majority but not large majority of the games (46-50 games) is a scenario that's worked out for about league average for 3 different teams over a decade.

    If someone can give me a scenario that's significantly better than that, I'll be pleased. Nobody has.
     
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    How many Ferraris do you think the dealer would trade for my '72 Ford Pinto? I'm gonna ask for at least two, the dealer should know I want two Ferraris therefore I should get two Ferraris.
     
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    I do not see the isles outbidding other teams to keep Green on July 1st.

    With De Haan +Green both likely leaving , it puts the isles back on the trade market in the off season. I would rather shop for a puck mover who will be under team control this season and next season.
     
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    Such as?
     
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    No interest in Lindgren, and no interest in Weber's contract, especially for a 20 year old PPG center.
     
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    Did you know the isles talked to the Ducks last summer about Vantanen?
    I didn't and no one on the nyi board bought him up as someone Snow pursued.

    The GM meeting were recently held.You don't think Snow wasn't seeking our potential trades?

    It is Dec.Not days or weeks from the TDL.
     
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    maybe maybe not. his production has slowed noticably and as you fall further out of the playoff race, his value will take a hit. you may get a first, I wont deny that but it will be a late one.

    I dont see him helping us, Id rather play pulock
     
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    I think you're reaching when you say pursued. Staple said inquired, which is likely code for a <1 min phone call across the draft floor.
     
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    considering at the time anaheim was looking to extend fowler and the ducks were actively shopping vatanen (albeit with a considerable price tag) Id assume it was a bit longer. Snow obviously didnt like the price tag

    but over the summer due to fowler's excellent season it was common knowledge vatanen was available. spector claimed several teams most notably Toronto and edmonton inquired. and given the visnovsky deal it wouldnt surprise me if garth did indeed kick the proverbial tires

    Garth does have a habit of fishing with the same buddies
     
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    Snow was sitting there with Hamonic shopped or already moved and with De Haan looking for a bigger contract extension then the isles wanted to give him.
    26 old Vatanen would have checked several boxes. This makes 2 players I wanted, that Snow had talks about only to see NJ snag them.First Hall and now Vatanen.
     
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    crew when shero snags vlasic youll go into orbit.....youve wanted him since he was a rookie. I remember that
     
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    Gotta grudgingly give Shero props.He is building a really good team in NJ.
     
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    True but he missed on Barzal thank god.
     
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    Certainly can't see the sabres saying no to either deal. Although I don't really think they necessarily need another goaltender coming back. Ullmark is ready to be an NHL backup and Adam Wilcox can handle AHL duties
     
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    Do people like you enjoy bashing someones hard work? At least he took the time and threw some ideas out there.

    Ironically you make fun of him, yet Nillson would be A huge upgrade. What cuz he sucked before? well, guess the Canucks are 4th in gaa and Nillson is A huge part of that. You take away that debacle by the Canuck's pk in boston and the game against you guys. Last week he had the best sv% of goalies playing in more than 7 games .. overall he has been spectacular. And if the Nucks do trade him or Marky at the TDL. and both are playing like this or better with the way so many teams need A reliable backup this year It will easily cost A first. More then half the league is in goaltending trouble. Gonna be A feeding frenzy, usually, goalies go for a 3rd round or higher, Not this year.

    To the OP don't listen to jerks who have nothing better to do then be dicks. Most likely he used to get his arss kicked in HS. So now he can hide behind A pc and put people down. Have A great morning and keep up the good posts
     
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