David Suzuki
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Plekanec to the Pens continues to make sense to me. Who do they have that we could target as a young player?
Plekanec to the Pens continues to make sense to me. Who do they have that we could target as a young player?
Well, I think many things would have been different and perhaps you are nowhere the situation we are in today.He had a choice to not sign Price. But he signed Price to keep his job, nothing more.
He has no vision.
I mean, I would've signed Price too.. but I wouldn't have traded Subban for Weber, made the Shawful trade, signed Alzner.. but I would've brought Markov and Radulov back. Probably would have made the Drouin deal in that sense.. and I would've developed Galchenyuk as a C, or traded him before his value was gone when I -decided he will never be a C-
Hmmm...okay...?...These are HF boards. Everything and anything about hockey can and will be discussed. If a thread is created about weather we should rebuild or not, then I believe a discussion about what we honestly can expect in return for Price is a starting point. I agree, we can't know for sure but that's that the discussion is all about.
I don't know about a "rebuild" but at the deadline I think MB.... errr I mean pierre mcguire could get a fortune for a guy like Plekanec relative to his real value. Patches is anoter guy you could likely get a first + top level prospect for.
Is this right now? Because it would require Montreal retaining half of Plekanec's salary and taking on an awful cap dump like Hunwick to make a deal achievable.
We did try to draft and develop one... Galchenyuk. We just got unlucky in our draft year where no legit center was available. Would you rather us draft Grigorenko? He's a center right? And he was ranked in the top 5 before the draft too! Just imagine if we drafted him vs Galchenyuk and what people would be saying today?
Jets are desperate to make the playoffs folks.
Plekanec to the Pens continues to make sense to me. Who do they have that we could target as a young player?
Geesh since it has now become ALL about being lucky or unlucky let UncLe Leon be GM then. Have some laughs while we are at it.
Geesh since it has now become ALL about being lucky or unlucky let UncLe Leon be GM then. Have some laughs while we are at it.
Yes, luck and timing has an impact. Look how many 1st overall picks it took the Oilers to get McDavid while the Leafs snagged Mathews with just 1 first overall pick. You can laugh all you want but luck and timing is a factor that most don't consider when it comes to a rebuild.
They still managed to nab Marner and Nylander with other top picks. It's about making picks count when you get them, as well.
You need to be lucky to win the lottery and get that franchise player, but it's a higher chance then hoping to hit a home run late in round 1-7
How about the Oilers? You think they were lucky or unlucky with the Yakupov pick? You missed my point and you are looking at the success stories and turning a blind eye to the non success stories. I repeat, luck and timing of when you get a top 5 pick has a lot to do with it. It is after all called a lottery draft
Price for Laine and a 1st. Then start Lindgren and sell off all aging parts including Pacioretty.
The only way they could trade Plekanec to Pittsburgh is if it's at or close to the deadline and MTL retains 50%. They have 2M in cap space and don't really have a capdump on their team.
So, I'd say at the deadline Plekanec at 50% for Sprong. I doubt they want to trade Sprong, but if they think they're a top end 3C away from a 3 peat, they might bite.
You're not getting Sprong for Plekanec... C'mon. He's their top prospect by a mile. Would arguably be our top prospect too.
You might get a 2nd round pick for a 50% retained Plekanec at the deadline. Maybe more if someone is desperate. I'd be fine with that.
You're a ray of sunshine today. Team's that are going after Cups trade the future for the present, and it's not like Sprong is a top 10 blue chip prospect. Plus, he's a winger so that lowers his value as well.
Like I said, I don't imagine they would want to move him; but stranger things have happened.
As always!
I just think you severely overrate the value of some of our assets. Price for Laine + a 1st is ridiculous, you can't pry a guy like Laine out of Winnipeg unless you have a McDavid, Matthews or Eichel on the table. That's just the way it is.
Likewise, Pittsburgh won't trade their best prospect for guy like Plekanec. Getting a pick out of them is a far more likely, considering they did just move a 1st rounder for Reaves. As for Sprong not being a top 10 blue chipper... There's not a ton of winger prospects that I'd have ahead of him.
Don't take my word for it, you can go directly to the source and ask Pens fans directly.
Well go to the "rebuild thread" and you can discuss your genius ideas on how to make our team better in 7 years from now. Expecting us to be scoring like the Pens, Oilers, and Leafs is ridiculous. Sorry, I think we can still be effective similar to how the Sens almost made the cup finals last year. I think it's a long shot but I rather try than give up.