Speculation: If you were the GM, How would you play the Canucks Trade Deadline?

[Pucklington]

I would trade Elias Pettersson for a 2nd.

 

[Miri]

I would trade Elias Pettersson for a 2nd.

Same here - specifically to Avs. While retaining all his current and future salary.
Wait, you meant Canucks GM?

 

[rea]

This team has shown its fine on the offensive end, with or without a so called 2c. The stl games have shown that they have a tough time w the grind them dirty area teams, which is what playoff hockey is about.

The needs are first and foremost, another dman to anchor a 2nd pairing, and grit imo. The team has most of its big bodies in the backend, and you can't afford to lose them to penalties standing up for everyone in the playoffs.

This leads to the big bodies up front in need. Playoff hockey is a grind w alot of things left uncalled. But when they are, u can't lose one of the 6 guys expected to defend on the back and drain the other ones. If they are going to spend, it makes sense to shore up. That front end grit w scoring touch. A team like edm getting perry on the cheap is exactly the type of guys they need for long haul.

They've shown they can run and gun w the best, they have good goal tending, what they have had a problem w is when a team slows the game down and punishes them, where they get their backend caught up in penalty troubles

 

[samsagat]

Kuzmenko (5,5 mil)

For

Harris and Kovacevic (2,1 mil)

Harris and Kovacevic are NHL defensemen, they're youngish at 23 and 26 yo respectively.

MTL have a surplus of defensemen, they need offensive talent. They can deal with the 3,4 mil gap in salary received.

Vancouver needs depth at defense, plus they have 4 of their current D that are up and coming UFAs. They can surely take the 3,4 mil cap relief for further TD acquisitions.

 

[jd22]

Kuzmenko (5,5 mil)

For

Harris and Kovacevic (2,1 mil)

Harris and Kovacevic are NHL defensemen, they're youngish at 23 and 26 yo respectively.

MTL have a surplus of defensemen, they need offensive talent. They can deal with the 3,4 mil gap in salary received.

Vancouver needs depth at defense, plus they have 4 of their current D that are up and coming UFAs. They can surely take the 3,4 mil cap relief for further TD acquisitions.

I suspect Vancouver needs to add something of value there.

 

[Habs10025]

Your life, that’s a bit much. Relax their tiger.


So he is going to play the rest of his career in a team that is irrelevant and needs to rebuild. Might as well retire now, because I find it hard to believe that a guy who is that competitive is going to be happy missing the playoffs and hoping and dreaming of going on a wild run would be happy.

Crosby wants to win another Stanley Cup just like Malkin & Letang but they don't need to win another one they've been to 5 conference final 4 final 3 Stanley Cups they will be career long Pittsburgh Penguins 20 + years for all of them . If some fans want to consider Crosby irrelevant because he won't leave the Penguins then that says more about them than Crosby who's an all time great player and legend .

 

[Joseph Nathan]

World Junior MVP is b prospect?

Yeah to Minnesota prospect pool

 

[Jared Dunn]

They have to move Kuzmenko+ for a top six forward who fits them better, and open up a million or two that way. It might end up being a losing trade because Kuzmenko could bounce back but it's not going to happen in Van under Tocchet. Then trade a 2nd + for Tanev @ 50, they're familiar with Tanev and he fits what they need

 

[bleedgreen]

The core of the team is good and has chemistry. I wouldn’t add anything of locker changing significance. Bottom six forwards and bottom four dmen.

 

[oceanchild]

Crosby wants to win another Stanley Cup just like Malkin & Letang but they don't need to win another one they've been to 5 conference final 4 final 3 Stanley Cups they will be career long Pittsburgh Penguins 20 + years for all of them . If some fans want to consider Crosby irrelevant because he won't leave the Penguins then that says more about them than Crosby who's an all time great player and legend .

What, he is competitive and he is still playing. Lots of time to look back and feel good about what you accomplished after your done. This isn’t how any professional with Crosby’s type of career thinks. They all want to win, and don’t just hang it up because some fans might get butt hurt.

 

[Marlowe Syn]

I say lightly go all in. Make a move for Tanev. Maybe trade around the depth edges if needed and then play the game.

Crosby wants to win another Stanley Cup just like Malkin & Letang but they don't need to win another one they've been to 5 conference final 4 final 3 Stanley Cups they will be career long Pittsburgh Penguins 20 + years for all of them . If some fans want to consider Crosby irrelevant because he won't leave the Penguins then that says more about them than Crosby who's an all time great player and legend .

What, he is competitive and he is still playing. Lots of time to look back and feel good about what you accomplished after your done. This isn’t how any professional with Crosby’s type of career thinks. They all want to win, and don’t just hang it up because some fans might get butt hurt.

Exactly. Any player worth their weight in bird seed wants to lift the Cup again. No matter how many times they have done it.
You wanna play for paychecks? That fine too, as Toronto is always open for business.

 

[Habs10025]

I say lightly go all in. Make a move for Tanev. Maybe trade around the depth edges if needed and then play the game.







Exactly. Any player worth their weight in bird seed wants to lift the Cup again. No matter how many times they have done it.
You wanna play for paychecks? That fine too, as Toronto is always open for business.

Crosby isn't going to leave Pittsburgh in the hopes of winning a cup on another team and then fail he's going to sign an extension likely 2 years with 1 year remaining on his current deal after this season play another 3 years then retire might play longer if he's still playing at a high enough level.
Crosby will do what Lemieux , Yzerman did play his entire career with one team

 

[roon]

Honestly - Why would you mess with what is working right now?

 

[kvladimir]

Honestly - Why would you mess with what is working right now?

This doesn't mean you can't make the team even better than it is, or add depth in case injuries disrupt the chemistry of the group anyway.

If you look at their team like this:

Mikheyev/X-Pettersson-Kuzmenko
X/Mikheyev-Miller-Boeser
Joshua-Blueger-Garland
Hog-Suter-Lafferty
Aman

Hughes-Hronek
Soucy-Myers
Zadorov-Cole
X
Juulsen

Demko
DeSmith

Then, obviously it shouldn't be a huge disruption to the team's existing chemistry to acquire 'X' (a top 6 LW or C to replace Suter in the top 6 and nudge him down to an excellent 4th line at C). Nor would it be, arguably, if the acquisition was to replace Kuzmenko and add another depth forward that can move up and down the lineup... Cap is obviously an issue.

Or pick up 'X' on D (likely a puck moving RD that can slot in to give Cole the odd game off, as he's the oldest guy in the D core and could benefit from that, plus sometimes just having 3 right shots on the right side might be strategically beneficial, not to mention more puck movement options from the bottom pair?). I'm thinking someone like Boqvist, Jokiharju, Carrier, or Stecher if they are available and can be fit under the cap?

 

[Marlowe Syn]

Crosby isn't going to leave Pittsburgh in the hopes of winning a cup on another team and then fail he's going to sign an extension likely 2 years with 1 year remaining on his current deal after this season play another 3 years then retire might play longer if he's still playing at a high enough level.
Crosby will do what Lemieux , Yzerman did play his entire career with one team

I wasn't talking or even remotely thinking Crosby. I was just saying they should target Tanev and maybe some depth pieces. So not understanding your response

 

[GeeoffBrown]

Personally, I find that rentals are rarely worth it and so I would probably just abstain from the trade deadline and try to build a team with 10-20 years worth of playoff attempts, including drafting 7+ times every year

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

There's been enough impact over the years from rentals to justify doing something. Ironically, it's been the 2nd round and below type that has produced the best results (Manson, Kempny, Hainsey, Gaborik, Guerin, B. Stuart).

The 1st round type has largely disappointed relative to the price paid; Kaberle and Savard were 3rd pairing defensemen and while Vermette scored a few big goals, he was also healthy scratched at times. Weight is the all-around good outcome to point to and that occured 18 years ago.

Not sure how to define Barbashev in those terms, who was traded for a recent 1st round prospect that has gone on to have a disappointing AHL rookie season.

 

[The Old Master]

cups are few and far in between. go for the best you can get!

 

[wunderpanda]

difficult because kuzmenko and myers have the no trade clauses, so trying to work around that.

to buffalo: garland (4.95) & poolman (2.5 on LTIR) and a 2nd
to vancouver: girgensons (2,5) & jokiharju (2.5)

sabres have cap space to absorb extra money, garland becomes a replacement for at least 6 forwards on expiring contracts. poolman comes off the nucks LTIR so they start accruing cap space ahead of the deadline. girgensons is a ufa but should fit tochetts style in the botton 6, jokiharju is rfa and cheaper than myers. obviously, this is more of a set up trade to allow vancouver to deal with no trade clauses/cap mining.

 

[LakeLivin]

If I were GM of the Nucks I'd trade Petterson to the Canes for their 2024 1st and Tony DeAngelo. : )

Edit: never mind, just saw I was beaten to the punch several posts up.

 

[Cancuks]

Late first round picks rarely amount to anything. Canucks are in win now mode, a player who may or may not turn out in 3 or 4 years won't matter. This pick will definitely be dealt.

 

[sting101]

Those are some real knee slappers trading Pettersson. 1st rule of telling a joke do not repeat joke. Unwritten rule....make sure it's funny

On a serious note:

Objectives:
1 - Get a top6W
2 - Add some grit and versatility for injury depth
3 - Add a RD

1 - Jason Zucker (50% retained) -for- Pius Suter + 4th
2a - Sam Carrick -for- Jet Woo + 6th
2b - Pat Maroon -for- 5th
3 - No Cap space and already made the moves for Zadorov and Friedman + Cole or Soucy can play RD

Not sexy but adds size depth and experience to the forward group

 

[Rowlet]

difficult because kuzmenko and myers have the no trade clauses, so trying to work around that.

to buffalo: garland (4.95) & poolman (2.5 on LTIR) and a 2nd
to vancouver: girgensons (2,5) & jokiharju (2.5)

sabres have cap space to absorb extra money, garland becomes a replacement for at least 6 forwards on expiring contracts. poolman comes off the nucks LTIR so they start accruing cap space ahead of the deadline. girgensons is a ufa but should fit tochetts style in the botton 6, jokiharju is rfa and cheaper than myers. obviously, this is more of a set up trade to allow vancouver to deal with no trade clauses/cap mining.

Canucks won't move Garland, that third line is one of the most effective in the league.

 

[Double Dion]

I'd be looking at a 2nd line forward and a 2nd pairing RD. Position of the forward doesn't matter too much, but the D should be RH. I'd acquire the space by paying up to a 3rd round pick for someone (Chicago?) to take Kuzmenko.

I WOULDN'T trade Zadorov. He's the kind of D you can't wear down in a playoff series with a vicious forecheck,

 

[mrinsane]

Habs could deal Harris and Monahan to Van