How have your 2017 picks progressed

HanSolo

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Vegas:

Cody Glass, led his team in scoring by a pretty signifcant margin

Nick Suzuki: one of the OHL's top scorers, had the same point total as Glass.

Erik Brannstrom: had a respectable season. Looked pretty good in the WJC but I believe he can do better.

Nick Hague: 67 gp 78p. That's a lot for a defenseman. My biggest concern was his footspeed and I didn't watch him play so I don't know if that will still be problematic for his professional transition

Anaheim:

Only paid attention to how Comtois was doing

Maxime Comtois: Considering he had his skull slammed into the ice early in the season one could easily forgive him for having a down year as he recovered but he was insanely consistent going down the stretch.
 

MarAlain MongYeo

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Nolan patrick: Has looked very good as of late after he got off to a very bad start. I think people really underrated how much his injuries would effect him going into the season. I think he will be even better next year. Still, gun to my head, Im taking Hischier, Makar, Petersson, and Mittlestadt ahead of him in a re-draft. Which really just says more about how everyone underrated the 2017 draft than it does about Patrick.

Morgan Frost: Eased the pain of passing on Tolvanen, but would still rather have Eeli. Frost looks like he could be very good. He did play on a great team though so he may just be a product of it, I hope he gets to prove himself next year at the WJC.

Isaac Ratcliffe: Total project of a player, but had a nice 40 goal year for Guelph. Didn't love trading up for him at the draft but he has at least shown that it could have been the right decision.

Kiristil Ustimenko: Goalie in the MHL. Put up great numbers, but pretty much every goalie did in that league so Im not sure what to think of him.

Maksim Sushko: Good year for Owen Sound and looked great for Belarus at the WJC, but probably projects more as a bottom sixer, not that exciting of a prospect.

Matthew Strome: Had good stats for Hamilton as expected, but his skating still looks ugly as mess. If he fies that, he could be something.
 
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Tripod

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Patrick: playing great now that he is healthy.

Frost: 2nd in OHL scoring. Better PPG than Thomas, Suzuki

Ratcliffe 6th in OHL in goals with 41. Over a PPG in OHL

Ustimenko: top 5 goalie in MHL

Strome: 37 goals. Over a PPG in OHL

Sushko: 31 goals. Exactly a PPG in OHL. Had a great WJC.

Cates: 46 points in 50 games in USHL...11th in league scoring

Lycksell: 7 points in 25 SHL games as youngest player in SHL(I believe) Doesn't turn 19 until August 24th.

Kalynuk: 25 points in 37 games as a rookie Dman in NCAA

The Flyers did not have 1 prospect that had a bad year. Another fantastic draft for Hextall and Co.
 

Elias Pettersson

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In no particular order: Hischier, Patrick, Heiskanen, Makar, Pettersson, Glass, Mittelstadt, Vilardi, Necas, Brannstrom, Valimaki, Liljegren, Thomas, Chytil, Frost, Tolvanen. So thats 16 ahead of him, would put him 17th. You had him 13, not that much of a difference. I think he was over-drafted, but will be a quality NHL'er.
Lol Andersson is better than Brannstrom, Liljegren, frost, Valimaki
 

AveryStar4Eva

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D - Miro Heiskanen - 0.76PPG in Liiga. Made the Olympics, played in the WJC. Love his progress over twice the amount of points in seven less games.

G - Jake Ottinger - 0.916SV% in College. He had better numbers last year but held his own on a weaker team.

LW - Jason Robertson - 1.27PPG in the OHL. Was hoping he'd put up at least 95 points this year, but still made good progress.

C - Liam Hawel - 0.66PPG in the OHL. Didn't expect much, didn't improve much.

C - Jacob Peterson - 0.50PPG in SWE-1. Don't know much about him. I always have faith in Stars 5th rounders.

RW - Brett Davis - 0.80PPG in the WHL. Seems decent all around could make a decent bottom 6er.

G - Dylan Furgison - 0.909SV% in the WHL. Best player of our draft because he made the NHL already. In all seriousness expected more from him hope he's better next year (even though hes Vegas's prospect now).
 

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Foote 14th overall - was a bit better than expected, especially on the offensive side. Put up big offensive numbers while still playing a strong physical defensive game. Will be in the AHL next year but could earn a spot out of camp as the right side is weak.

Volkov 48th overall - was a surprise pick in the 2nd round but has played better than expected. Put up good offensive numbers as a rookie in the AHL while being a good two way forward. Should be a key piece in Syracuse again next year with a chance to see the NHL at some point.

Lipanov 76th overall - bit of a disappointment. Started out good but really fell off and was traded to the worst team in the OHL which didn't help. Struggled on both ends of the rink, much more was expected. Should be back in junior next year and hopefully can get back on track.

Perbix 169th overall - solid 1st season in the USHL. Still a ways out from turning pro. Going to St. Cloud State next year so a very good program to develop at.

Guttman 180th overall - was injured early in the year so hard to evaluate. Year's away still. Going to a good program at Denver so another chance to develop well.

Walker 200th overall - had a really strong year and won Mr. Hockey for Minnesota. Put up numbers similar to what Mittlestadt did the year prior. Didn't win the state title though. Small so will need to fill out which he should do at Minnesota next year where he can hopefully develop into something.
 

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Florida:
Tippett - we passed on many better players because we wanted a winger who'd be a pure shooter (watching Tolvanen really sucks). He's developing well but at the 10th pick there were better players available.

Heponiemi - great pick, very high risk/reward, crazy potential but could bust with his lack of size. Put up fantastic numbers in juniors, currently we're very happy with him.

Gildon - underrated pick, love it so far. Big Dman putting up points in the NCAA, him and Finkelstein have the highest upside amongst our D prospects (Finkelstein's floor is total bust though)(this also tells you that our D prospect depth is pretty meh).

Inamoto, Repo - too soon to tell but so far not impressed.
 

Scott Malkinson

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Timothy Liljegren has had a great season in the AHL.

Eemeli Rasanen started off hot in the OHL but his production has slowed down since the WJC. He made the Finnish team but didn't play.

Ian Scott is a goalie in the WHL. He's had a good season.

Every other later pick has improved in production from last year but their all long shots going forward.
 

kidkosher

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NJ:

Hischier: This one goes without saying. He's the f***ing man and will be for years.

J. Boqvist: Has not been a scoring machine, but he made the WJC team and has put together decent numbers after breaking his wrist in like the first month of the season. Devils fans love guys name Jesper.

Fabian zetterlund: Didnt put up great numbers in the SHL with Farjestads but was loaned to Timra and has been holding his own nicely. Also had a good showing at WJC.

Reilly Walsh: Freshman who is playing first pairing for Harvard. Devils best d man by a small margin. So many nice highlights of him PP QB.

Nikita Popugaev: We thought he'd be a steal. Struggled early with Prince George, then defected to play in CSKA's system. Bounces up and down KHL MHL and VHL. He's getting good experience, but this is far from the breakout year we thought we'd get.

Gilles Senn: drafted at 21, playing in switzerland. Feels like a throwaway pick tbh.

Marian Studenic: ending this season in the OHL with about 20 points more than last season. It'll be fun to watch how he develops, but doesnt appear to be anything crazy special. When he scores he scores a shit ton, when he doesnt he's a slumper.

Aarne Talvatie: My fav pick. 58 in 41 in the Finnish Junior leagues. Would have been playing in the SM Liiga if he wasnt signed to Penn state for next year. Won junior player of the year and could be a bit of a steal if he shows that he can dominate college play at the same extent.

Jocktan Chainey: Hearing lots of praise for him, went from 24 pts to 40 pts from last year to this. But also halifax looks good and playing top pair minutes doesnt hurt.

Yegor Zaitsev: Plays in the KHL, has like 3 or 4 points.

Matthew Hellickson: Know nothing bout him
 

lakai17

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Morgan Frost: Eased the pain of passing on Tolvanen, but would still rather have Eeli. Frost looks like he could be very good. He did play on a great team though so he may just be a product of it, I hope he gets to prove himself next year at the WJC.

Frost finishes the regular season 2nd in ohl scoring and you're still not sold on him completely? 3 points less than the league leader I remind you.

:dunno:

He was a 27th overall selection, not even a top 20 selection.
 

Tripod

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Frost finishes the regular season 2nd in ohl scoring and you're still not sold on him completely? 3 points less than the league leader I remind you.

:dunno:

He was a 27th overall selection, not even a top 20 selection.
His views do not line up with the majority or Flyers fans. I just left it alone since he is entitled to his opinion.
 

HisNoodliness

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As a Wings fan, I hated our 2017 draft, and outside of Rasmussem, it has been an unmitigated disaster. For example, Lane Zablocki had 30 goals last year, including 19 in 29.


He has one goal in 25ish games now. Every single player but rasmussen has underperformed, and they werent good picks to begin with.

Ras is the one bright spot though. I HATED the pick when it was made,but the more I watch him, the more I think he is going to be a very good NHLer. His overall game is vastly underestimated

I think you should give Lindstrom a bit more credit. I think he's got potential and has had a solid season. He hasn't exactly exploded, but he's progressing about as you'd expect. At least he hasn't regressed.

I also disagree on Rasmussen as the bright spot. He hasn't regressed, but there's nothing to be excited about IMO. At the draft I thought he was about a 3/4C and a PP specialist. He hasn't done anything to change my opinion on that. His primary and ES points have improved some, but not enough to make me feel much better.

All in all, at one year out I feel like we did horrendously. This would be an acceptable draft if we had the 31st pick and traded our second at the TDL because we were the cup favorites. For a top 10 pick, rebuilding team, it's inexcusable.
 

Mrb1p

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Frost finishes the regular season 2nd in ohl scoring and you're still not sold on him completely? 3 points less than the league leader I remind you.

:dunno:

He was a 27th overall selection, not even a top 20 selection.

He said he liked Tolvanen more basically, hes pretty much right.
 

Hatter of the Beach

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I think you should give Lindstrom a bit more credit. I think he's got potential and has had a solid season. He hasn't exactly exploded, but he's progressing about as you'd expect. At least he hasn't regressed.

I also disagree on Rasmussen as the bright spot. He hasn't regressed, but there's nothing to be excited about IMO. At the draft I thought he was about a 3/4C and a PP specialist. He hasn't done anything to change my opinion on that. His primary and ES points have improved some, but not enough to make me feel much better.

All in all, at one year out I feel like we did horrendously. This would be an acceptable draft if we had the 31st pick and traded our second at the TDL because we were the cup favorites. For a top 10 pick, rebuilding team, it's inexcusable.

I thought that of Rasmussen too, until I saw him play in preseason. Skating is a non issue, and was very good defensively.
 

Kobe Armstrong

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Poehling: I think he'll be a decent middle-6 center which is something we need, he's shown more offense this year which was big for his development, I think he was the leading U19 scorer in the NCAA and outproduced Mittelstadt and Norris. I was happy with the pick and I'm fine with it now, Tolvanen would've been good too though..

Josh Brook: He's the #1D for Moose Jaw who have a really good team right now, he's put up 32 points in 45 games and is a +48. I'm interested to see how he does in the WHL playoffs.

Joni Ikonen: I really liked the pick when it happened but now I feel like it's a longshot he can play in the NHL. He hasn't been able to score that much for KalPa and I don't really like how he plays the game, in the WJC all he did was stand in the slot and bang his stick on the ice. A lot could change though we're still only 1 year out from the draft.

Scott Walford: His offense didn't improve much but he was better defensively, and he skates well for a big guy.

Cale Fleury: A lot of Habs fans love him, he's put up great stats since being traded from Kelowna to Regina. I'm not sure if he's eligible to join the AHL next season but he's one of our better prospects now.

Jarret Tyszka: Don't really know anything about him, but he's put up good stats for Seattle.

Cayden Primeau: Looks like a steal in the 7th round, he took over the starter role at Northeastern and he's only 18, in 33 games he had a 1.88 GAA and a .932 SV%.
 

HisNoodliness

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I thought that of Rasmussen too, until I saw him play in preseason. Skating is a non issue, and was very good defensively.

I agree that his skating is a non issue; he skates well for his size, and should be about average overall in the NHL IMO. He seems to take his defensive responsibilities seriously and compete all over the ice. I just can't imagine him producing enough at ES in the NHL to justify a top 6 spot. His shot is pretty good, but not nearly good enough to carry his game. He's an average passer and has average vision IMO.

He only truly excels at using his hands in tight, deflecting pucks, collecting rebounds and winning puck battles along the boards or in front of the net. Those qualities should serve him well on the power play, but at ES you can't just stand in front of the net and expect to generate much offense.
 

CallMeShaft

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I love what Chicago accomplished in this draft.

Jokiharu (29th)- One of the best defensmen in the WHL. Had 48pts in 71 games and a plus/minus of 14 last year. This year, he's had 71pts in 63 games and a plus/minus of 47. Just love how that kid can transition the puck up ice. He does want to make the Hawks next year, but I think he's still a little too green for that.

Mitchell (57)- Best defensmen for the University of Denver. Has more than double the points of the 2nd best defensmen on that team (his partner and 22yo Hawks prospect Blake Hillman). He just kinda took the role that Will Butcher left and ran with it. Supposedly is very good defensively too (has a great gap). His point totals aren't far off from Quinn Hughes who is likely to go in the top 10 in the '18 draft (Hughes is like 9 months younger, but it's still good to have a 2nd rounder from a year ago be comparable to an upcoming top 10 draft pick).

Altybarmakyan (70)- Hasn't seemed to do much, but it seems like he was a pick that needed quite a bit of seasoning. Never hear anyone mention him, but with a name like that, I kinda understand.

Barratt (90)-Has had a decent rookie season in the NCAA. Nothing spectacular, but steady progress all the same.

Soderlund (112)- Otherwise known as Arvidsson 2.0. The comparisons to these two are scary close and Soderlund continued drawing parallels by having a season very similar to what Arvidsson had in 12-13.

So out of our top 5 picks for 2017, I'm happy with 4 of them and unsure of only one. Not bad.
 
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Randy Randerson

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the Leafs group hasn't had the same sort of early returns as the last couple of years:

Liljegren - has done well to show that a lot of the red flags around his draft season were illness related. Hasn't blistered any paint in the AHL but doing steadily well, alright box stats but playing at an age where there's very few AHL comparables. Good returns, not great, still ecstatic that we got him where we did

Rasanen - hot start, some buzz about missing home, he's still a project

Ian Scott - goalies are always a project, Scott feels very boom/bust. Has been fine, again not setting the world on fire, we won't know for a while

Kara - playing in the KHL, but not playing enough minutes to get a read because of age

Gordeev - doubled his production, but needs to do that again next year to vault himself to real prospect status. Nice tools with his size/speed/hands combo but he's raw

McGregor - feels like 4th line upside, no different than draft day

O'Connell - meh, ok production in a 2nd tier league. Again feels like a low ceiling

lackluster year compared to the first two under Hunter from the perspective of one year later
 
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Bluesnatic27

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Robert Thomas: I don't think much needs to be said about him. He's progressed fantastically and is exactly what the Blues need. A smart, good skating centerman that can contribute in a top-6 role.

Klim Kostin: Did not explode like many others drafted around him (Eeli Tolvanen, Kole Lind) but that doesn't mean Kostin was bad. Honestly, I don't even think he was sub-par given his age and situation. Playing his first year of professional hockey, as an 18-year-old, after missing so much time due to injury and surgery is tough. Yet, he's still found himself a starting role in the bottom-6 of the Rampage, with periodic games within the top-6. He also did well in the WJC for Russia, so that's a plus. All-in-all, he's progressed about as well as I would hope, and hasn't given me much reason to be disappointed in him.

Alexei Toropchenko: Many Blues posters are excited about this guy because his physical tools are something. His speed in particular is great. However, he didn't have the greatest statistical year for Guelph, but I don't think I'm out of line by saying that team in large has been a disappointment this year. That being said, he seems to play a very well rounded two-way game that could lead him to find a role in the bottom-6 in the NHL.

As for David Noel, Trenton Bourque, and Anton Andersson... I have no clue. Noel showed off his offensive game for Val d'Or by leading them in points. But his defensive game is nothing to brag about from what I've heard. Bourque sounds to be the opposite as his offensive game is non-existent, but I think his defensive game is better. Andersson is an enigma wrapped within a mystery.

I'm fairly happy with this draft. One top-6 center and a potential top-6 winger is a strong 1-2 that the Blues could really use right now.
 

Gargyn

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I love what Chicago accomplished in this draft.

Jokiharu (29th)- One of the best defensmen in the OHL. Had 48pts in 71 games and a plus/minus of 14 last year. This year, he's had 71pts in 63 games and a plus/minus of 47. Just love how that kid can transition the puck up ice. He does want to make the Hawks next year, but I think he's still a little too green for that.

Mitchell (57)- Best defensmen for the University of Denver. Has more than double the points of the 2nd best defensmen on that team (his partner and 22yo Hawks prospect Blake Hillman). He just kinda took the role that Will Butcher left and ran with it. Supposedly is very good defensively too (has a great gap). His point totals aren't far off from Quinn Hughes who is likely to go in the top 10 in the '18 draft (Hughes is like 9 months younger, but it's still good to have a 2nd rounder from a year ago be comparable to an upcoming top 10 draft pick).

Altybarmakyan (70)- Hasn't seemed to do much, but it seems like he was a pick that needed quite a bit of seasoning. Never hear anyone mention him, but with a name like that, I kinda understand.

Barratt (90)-Has had a decent rookie season in the NCAA. Nothing spectacular, but steady progress all the same.

Soderlund (112)- Otherwise known as Arvidsson 2.0. The comparisons to these two are scary close and Soderlund continued drawing parallels by having a season very similar to what Arvidsson had in 12-13.

So out of our top 5 picks for 2017, I'm happy with 4 of them and unsure of only one. Not bad.
Isn’t Jokiharju in the WHL?
 

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