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[Kaners PPGs]

Is Clowe done? What expectations do you have for him? Thanks for any info.

 

[billingtons ghost]

Is Clowe done? What expectations do you have for him? Thanks for any info.

The team won't even admit he had a concussion, so we are forced to draw our own conclusions.

IMHO he'd be insane to lace em up again.

 

[Devils Dominion]

I remember being excited when we acquired both Dave Ellett and Doug Bodger in the 90s.

Both of those seasons ended in disappointing playoff losses.

Do you guys remember how both of these guys played as Devils?

They both had solid careers as steady defensemen that chipped in some offense.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

Clowe's still only 32. He seems like the kinda guy that'd try and return four years from now if he could. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to make a recovery even if it took him 2 or 3 years. That's not to say it'd be a good idea, or a productive idea, but who knows. The guy clearly loves the game. I just wish he'd been smart enough to think long term instead of "my game's my game and I play my game" short term.

 

[Devils Dominion]

I didn't know which thread to put this in, but since it was our former arena, I'll put it here.
Looks like the old Brendan Byrne is closing for good in a few months.

IMO, it's time has come, there is no good reason to keep that worn out eye sore on life support any longer.
We all had great times there as Devils fans.
We should have a meet up the day it gets imploded.

***LOL the scared grannies who posted in the comments that they won't go to Newark.
All it takes is one trip to The Rock and they will quickly learn its a quite a safe area on event/game night.
The Disney on Ice crowds in November proved that peope of all ages flock to The Rock.
I never saw so many grandparents with young childen at any event anywhere than at the Disney On Ice Frozen show.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/izo...events-after-march-31-being-cleared-1.1192590

 

[JerseySideOfTheRiver]

What time does the visiting team arrive?

I know it's posted in one of the stickied threads but I couldn't find it. Does the visiting team usually arrive around 4 or 5?

 

[SeidoN]

EDIT: joke failed, you asked visiting :'(

 

[Devilsfan992]

EDIT: joke failed, you asked visiting :'(

My guess is your answer was around the 55th minute. Was I close?

 

[SeidoN]

My guess is your answer was around the 55th minute. Was I close?

exactly

thats kind of depressing actually

 

[Colin226]

I once saw a visiting team's bus being escorted down I-78 East at around 4:15 or so.. So my guess is that they get there between 4:30 and 5 for most games.

 

[ssaintj]

Worst Trade-Deadline Moves?

Here are the Devils' worst trade-deadline moves. What do you guys think?

http://alongtheboards.com/2015/02/devils-top-5-worst-trade-deadline-deals/

 

[Coach Parker]

Love the Depth of Young Defensemen

Hello guys,

Given the amazing depth on D in New Jersey, is there any interest in moving Larsson for another RFA forward or is he considered untouchable?

Cheers

 

[Brodeur]

Here are the Devils' worst trade-deadline moves. What do you guys think?

http://alongtheboards.com/2015/02/devils-top-5-worst-trade-deadline-deals/

The first one that comes to mind is missing on your list. At the deadline in 2001, the Devils gave up a young Willie Mitchell for Sean O'Donnell. O'Donnell was good, but proved to be a bad fit with Colin White. The previous year, Vladimir Malakhov excelled as White's partner.

 

[Brodeur]

Stumbled on this photo while searching for Fetisov photos from 2000. Hadn't seen it before. Bunch of friends were discussing the ESPN 30 for 30 on the Russian hockey program. It quickly highlighted him and Larionov skating with the Cup together in 1997. Thought this was a pretty cool image in its own right.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

Hello guys,

Given the amazing depth on D in New Jersey, is there any interest in moving Larsson for another RFA forward or is he considered untouchable?

Cheers

Devils' system is too bad not to consider every offer for young forwards, but it'd take a lot for Larsson, I think. It's tougher to say right now with Severson being out for awhile and Merrill having a tough time in his sophomore year.

 

[BagHead]

Wild fan coming here as a fantasy hockey owner:

Gelinas. I'm not asking for advice or anything, but right now I've got him on my team in a keeper league, and saw he was benched the last 17 minutes of last game. His quote on it is: "It was 2-0 and I went on the rush, I can't do that and I've got to learn from that. I was trying to help out (Jaromir Jagr) and I didn't really think about it, but I've got to keep that in the back of my mind that we don't need another goal and stay back."

Now, my question is, are the defensemen in NJ really not allowed to get in on the rush at all when your team has a lead, or was it more that he pinched at a bad time (i.e. without someone to cover for him)? I didn't watch the game, so I'm not sure what the situation was exactly, but they way he makes it sound makes me wonder if the Devils play even more conservatively than I thought. Hopefully someone here can set me straight on this.

Sorry if I should have put this somewhere else, but I didn't want to start a new thread about it. Of course, feel free to move it if it belongs elsewhere.

 

[Cheddabombs]

Wild fan coming here as a fantasy hockey owner:

Gelinas. I'm not asking for advice or anything, but right now I've got him on my team in a keeper league, and saw he was benched the last 17 minutes of last game. His quote on it is: "It was 2-0 and I went on the rush, I can't do that and I've got to learn from that. I was trying to help out (Jaromir Jagr) and I didn't really think about it, but I've got to keep that in the back of my mind that we don't need another goal and stay back."

Now, my question is, are the defensemen in NJ really not allowed to get in on the rush at all when your team has a lead, or was it more that he pinched at a bad time (i.e. without someone to cover for him)? I didn't watch the game, so I'm not sure what the situation was exactly, but they way he makes it sound makes me wonder if the Devils play even more conservatively than I thought. Hopefully someone here can set me straight on this.

Sorry if I should have put this somewhere else, but I didn't want to start a new thread about it. Of course, feel free to move it if it belongs elsewhere.

I missed that part of the game too so I can't say specifically what happened. But I'll say it was a mix of that pinch and that he's pretty much an offensive defenseman right now. It's risky enough playing Zids when we have a lead, Gelinas is basically a young/inexperienced version of him. We have played more conservatively under the hydra coaching staff, but I wouldn't say our defenseman aren't allowed pinch with a lead.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

Wild fan coming here as a fantasy hockey owner:

Gelinas. I'm not asking for advice or anything, but right now I've got him on my team in a keeper league, and saw he was benched the last 17 minutes of last game. His quote on it is: "It was 2-0 and I went on the rush, I can't do that and I've got to learn from that. I was trying to help out (Jaromir Jagr) and I didn't really think about it, but I've got to keep that in the back of my mind that we don't need another goal and stay back."

Now, my question is, are the defensemen in NJ really not allowed to get in on the rush at all when your team has a lead, or was it more that he pinched at a bad time (i.e. without someone to cover for him)? I didn't watch the game, so I'm not sure what the situation was exactly, but they way he makes it sound makes me wonder if the Devils play even more conservatively than I thought. Hopefully someone here can set me straight on this.

Sorry if I should have put this somewhere else, but I didn't want to start a new thread about it. Of course, feel free to move it if it belongs elsewhere.

D-men can jump up on the rush - they just better not be doing it when nobody else is there to cover or if they're the last man back. Gelinas is a defensive liability already but has the offensive upside that is supposed to make up for that - like a Zidlicky.

He's been scratched and benched because he doesn't recognize when he should go or when he should stay back in addition to sloppy turnovers. Those mistakes make his leash shorter than others who have demonstrated they recognize when to stay or jump in.

Simple as that.

He's just owning his mistake here with that quote. Devils hockey is still about not making the first mistake and as a very young D squad playing for the low scoring win, that's what that quote is all about.

I hope you've exhausted other D options out there because right now he's not looking good as a fantasy player - even as a sleeper/keeper.

 

[JimEIV]

Wild fan coming here as a fantasy hockey owner:

Gelinas. I'm not asking for advice or anything, but right now I've got him on my team in a keeper league, and saw he was benched the last 17 minutes of last game. His quote on it is: "It was 2-0 and I went on the rush, I can't do that and I've got to learn from that. I was trying to help out (Jaromir Jagr) and I didn't really think about it, but I've got to keep that in the back of my mind that we don't need another goal and stay back."

Now, my question is, are the defensemen in NJ really not allowed to get in on the rush at all when your team has a lead, or was it more that he pinched at a bad time (i.e. without someone to cover for him)? I didn't watch the game, so I'm not sure what the situation was exactly, but they way he makes it sound makes me wonder if the Devils play even more conservatively than I thought. Hopefully someone here can set me straight on this.

Sorry if I should have put this somewhere else, but I didn't want to start a new thread about it. Of course, feel free to move it if it belongs elsewhere.

Since Pete DeBoer was fired the new coaching staff has dumbed down the system dramatically.

They really aren't allowed to take chances at all under the new staff, regardless if they have a lead or not, It is pretty obvious.

It is almost the exact opposite of what DeBoer was doing. DeBoer's system required far more decision making/reads from his defense in an attempt to keep the play in the offensive zone. It was not unusual to see our defensemen pinching all the way down to the hash marks under DeBoer and that has completely vanished. So under DeBoer your defenders often had to make that read whether to go and support the forward in the offensive zone or pull back and go on defense...For a young defender just learning NHL speed, time and space that is real burdensome.

The Devils over the last 20 games have pretty much tried to establish a lead then trap until the game is over. It looks like Florida Panther Hockey circa 96'

I'm not sure if they are doing this solely to protect the young defense or this how they are going to proceed in the future. DeBoer's system was taxing on inexperienced players both forwards and defense, so I tend to think that philosophy was to simplify the system to give some of the kids a chance to succeed.

 

[BagHead]

Thanks for the replies guys.

Hehe yeah, unfortunately he's my worst defenseman. At this point the defensive crop on the free agent wire is pretty thin. Braun just came back a few games ago, so he may be the best (probably a move I'll be making very shortly).
Dillon and Gardiner are out there too, but their +/- is just so bad that having the occasional Gelinas game is better than the near guarantee of negative play from those two. Gelly has stuck around just because of how often he shoots and hits when he does actually play.

Can't wait until Erik Johnson comes back from IR.

 

[NJDevs26]

How big is your league that you have to roster Gelinas? He's on the wire in my 14-team, 23-man roster league (we do have hits and blocks as categories so that varies the defensemen you put in your starting lineup beyond just points guys)

But yeah him making a bad pinch was probably part situational (referencing the two-goal lead in the third) and partly cause of it being reckless at the wrong time (i.e. when there isn't anyone to cover for it)

 

[Richer's Ghost]

I picked up Larsson last week in a 18 team 18 man full keeper league! Gelinas is still there along with Alzner and Quincy in the top 5 ranked D available. Paul Martin 10 slots down from Gelinas. *laugh*

 

[Wingman77]

I never knew Fetisov harbored ill feelings towards the organization upon his departure. Obviously things were eventually fine as he came back to coach, but interesting nonetheless. Stumbled across this from 95;

Viacheslav Fetisov was almost as happy to get out of New Jersey 21/2 months ago as he was to leave the Soviet Union in 1989.

"It was one of the only things they did right for me," Fetisov said of the April 3 trade that sent him from the Devils to the Detroit Red Wings. "They almost buried me out there. Here, I'm a reborn hockey player."

"There have always been two types of hockey in the world - defensive and offensive," said Fetisov, who rarely played this season for the Devils. "In New Jersey, it was always defensive, always waiting, never creating."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/423190/REBORN-FETISOV-HOPES-TO-BURY-FORMER-TEAM.html?pg=all

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

To be fair to him, Lemaire hockey was the polar opposite to what he was allowed to do with his former teammates in Detroit.

 

[goosh]

Hello Devils fans. Kings fan here who's considering a proposal in Fantasy to acquire Adam Larsson. Just wanted some input from you all.

What's his ceiling (offensively and in general), and what are the chances he reaches that ceiling? Is his development coming along nicely? I heard things improved after DeBoer was let go.

Thanks in advance!