Why did they scratch Fischer last game?
Why did they scratch Fischer last game?
Bit of "Fischer took too many penalties in game 1," bit of "healthy competition for starting lineup spots." I don't believe there was an explicit "we're sitting Fischer for this reason" from the club.Why did they scratch Fischer last game?
MUCH more experience on the LV side of the tilt. And a much more "traditional" system.
Some might say that our "non-traditional" system of jumping in deep is untenable, unless you're content with a lot of odd-man rushes. I suppose we'll find out in another couple dozen games if it's the players unable to play the system, or if it's an unworkable system for these players.
Reider is a valuable player even if he doesn't score as much as he should. His speed draws a lot of penalties, he's defensively responsible, and he puts pressure on the opponent
Not trying to fan any flames of hatred, but we got beat the same way DT would have beat us. I Doan think that is the style this team needs to play, but it's interesting just the same.
Usage. Tippett used Rieder as a shutdown guy. Defensive zone starts against top competition. Few quality minutes, few offensive zone starts. Last season he only saw 95mins on the PP making him one of the most effective PP players. Only Vrbata, Domi, Hanzal and Burmistrov were better. Among the forwards with more than 100 shots he was the 2nd most effective just behind Hanzal...pretty impressive if you take into account that he didn't get too many quality or PP-minutes. Rieder also played a whopping 2:21 PK per game.
I was thinking the exact same thing last night. VGK reminded me of the DT Yotes (in terms of structure) and we the pre-McDavid Oilers. VGK played a very disciplined and stuctured game and we did not. Now I know how the Oilers felt when they lost to us like 20x..lol.
I repeat...Reider scored 2 power play goals all season. So that's 1 power play goal every 47 minutes of power plays. Put another way: That's 1 goal every 23 full power plays. And you say he is an effective PP player?
Obviously the FO% was disastrous but couldn't help noticing the comment above about "chasing the game" because of it. Some folks are still stuck in the Dave Tippett cliche era I guess. It's only the second game so it'll take time.
Our D is consistently unable to clear the zone and unable to make clean outlet passes/passes in their own zone. Most of the sustained pressure we are facing is because our D is making stupid choices with the puck.
Not trying to fan any flames of hatred, but we got beat the same way DT would have beat us. I Doan think that is the style this team needs to play, but it's interesting just the same.
Yep, but we never played anyone quite like us either!LV was clearly playing within a structured system versus whatever we were doing. They have more vets that aren't flashy on offence but are in the NHL because they are solid in other parts of their game. They didn't look or play like an expansion team. We never outshot anyone 40+ to 30 with tip coaching though.
So you say that faceoffs aren't important?
In fact, they're more important now than ever. Refs cleaning up the faceoffs allows the teams to generate immediate offense after a won faceoff. Before, a good Centerman like Hanzal was able to prevent a cleanly lost faceoff 9/10 times. You lose a faceoff in your own zone now it means you're in trouble. The Coyotes have two Centerman with the potential to win 50% (Dvorak, Richardson) but all other players were clearly below 50% in every season they played in the NHL. Not enough in my view. I wanted an experienced bottom six Centerman all the way since preseason...maybe now you know why. In 7 seasons, Stepan never managed to win more than 47%. That's just far off and beyond pathetic. You may think it doesn't matter but I can promise you it does.
LV was clearly playing within a structured system versus whatever we were doing. They have more vets that aren't flashy on offence but are in the NHL because they are solid in other parts of their game. They didn't look or play like an expansion team. We never outshot anyone 40+ to 30 with tip coaching though.
Two years ago we were the top or second best FO team IN THE LEAGUE with Carolina Tyson Nash couldn't stop talking about it all year long.
And how did that work out for us? Or even Carolina for that matter??
The problem with most stat jockeys here is you can't take a couple of different stats and made a whole load of presumptions based on them. Stats are the symptoms and not the actual problem.
Two years ago we were the top or second best FO team IN THE LEAGUE with Carolina Tyson Nash couldn't stop talking about it all year long.
And how did that work out for us? Or even Carolina for that matter??
The problem with most stat jockeys here is you can't take a couple of different stats and made a whole load of presumptions based on them. Stats are the symptoms and not the actual problem.
Well, they had an anchor like Eakin playing 22mins just because they don't have a better Centerman...
If Vegas played with a purpose then maybe that's because they're properly coached. Not sure about Arizona. Coyotes had some solid vets in the lineup as well but the Coaches decided not to play them...
LV looked well coached for sure and playing a system. They have all new players, nobody played together last year, yet they look very structured. This is because they have more vets in their forward ranks. Tocc is playing so may forwards with zero or very little NHL experience, Perlini/Crouse/Keller/Strome/DVO/Duclair/Cousins/Fischer. I wouldn't say we aren't properly coached at this point and time. I just think with so many young forwards, it is going to take time for all these young guys to play in all 3 zones, and mostly without the puck, at this level. True that Tocc didn't give the Richardson/Reider/Martinook vet line many minutes last night. I think Tocc will play them more minutes on Tuesday or juggle the lines.
Fischer has only a few games in the NHL at this point and had 2 penalties last game. I don't think he is a difference maker or is being treated unfairly. I'll bet money that Reider/Richardson/Martinook all get more minutes next game after Tocc watches the tape. Tocc is finding his way, I'm not down on him or his decisions so far. Over time, he'll make adjustments and it is still really really early.Fischer didn't play but he's one of the more responsible forwards already. He has to be in and the vets have to play more. No doubt about that. Especially Rieder. You have to talk about at least questionable coaching if he only plays 11mins in a tight game like that...