Fire Maurice, Hire Boudreau

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johna2626

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Good idea, but will not happen. Maurice should realistically be given 20-40 games next season to prove he can turn it around.

I tend to side with this. I don't think PoMo is the long term coach, but he needs a little more of a chance. There was a lot of bad luck this year
 

surixon

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I am not convinced Bruce is as good as his record indicates. He's had pretty darn good teams that where expected to contend his entire NHL tenure. So one would expect him to have a good record. Maurice has managed to coach inferior teams further into the playoffs than what Bruce has. So while I think Bruce might be an upgrade, I remain unconvinced he'd be a substantial one. What needs to be done is to bring in a special teams specialist. Remember it was only one year ago that Boudreau oversaw the leagues worst pp despite having a wealth of offensive talent at his disposal. McClean came in and fixed the pp problems there. We just need to find our own McClean this summer.
 

BigZ65

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I'm not a fan of Maurice, but realistically how do you go about pulling a coach swap off?

You'd have to fire Maurice before you make a move on anyone else.

Now, let's say Boudreau decides he likes the job in Minnesota and they've offered it to him. Who do the Jets get to coach their team?

It seems implausible, even ignoring the comparison between the options.
 

johna2626

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I don't like how the poll is worded. I don't think it's a bad idea at all - just don't think it should happen now.

The only problem is that Boudreau is going to be gone this offseason. If you want him, you have to get him now. I am talking about bold moves here. PoMo really hasn't been given much time, but if you think Boudreau is the guy you have to get rid of PoMo.
 

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I'm not a fan of Maurice, but realistically how do you go about pulling a coach swap off?

You'd have to fire Maurice before you make a move on anyone else.

Now, let's say Boudreau decides he likes the job in Minnesota and they've offered it to him. Who do the Jets get to coach their team?

It seems implausible, even ignoring the comparison between the options.

They didn't fire Noel before talking to Maurice.
 

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I kind of agree with op. The usage of Stuart and thorburn always has me scratching my head. I'm not sure why stu is constantly the one on our pk, and we play way too much dump and chase for my liking. Sometimes it seems like the obvious needs to hit him in the head. How did he think things like ehlers with Lowry and thorburn made sense?

I like many around here seriously can't figure Mau out half the time. I blame him for the poor PP & PK of this team and for some serious misuse of players.

IMO he may be running on borrowed time unless he smartens up, but I really don't see management making any move unless we miss the playoffs & do as bad as we did this year & the year after (if that happened, he'd be gone in 2 for sure)
 

Hank Chinaski

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Q for you, Hank: is this some Carolina bias leaking into your thoughts, or just how you feel based on how last year went?

Combination of both.

I said from day one, I doubted that Maurice was the right fit for a team looking to go with youth. I felt he was a perfect hire for a team that sorely needed new leadership and some instant success, and he certainly provided that.

Last season was an absolute disaster from a coaching standpoint. If I had watched the 2015-16 Jets and had no knowledge of the previous 1.5 seasons, I would've concluded they were among the worst-coached teams in the league. I'm not entirely convinced he has full buy-in from the room any longer.
 

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I don't like how the poll is worded. I don't think it's a bad idea at all - just don't think it should happen now.

Agree -- wording is terrible. I voted fire him merely as a protest vote -- because I know they wouldn't do it & I'm not convinced Boudreau is that good anyway.
 

Hunter368

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Q for you, Hank: is this some Carolina bias leaking into your thoughts, or just how you feel based on how last year went?

His record with the Jets has been anything but impressive. If one uses wins, loses and record as a basis to determine if he's done a good job or not. His career averages as a coach are similarly unimpressive.
 

rehf

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I wouldn't be upset if this happened, bigger problem is out moron assistant coaching staff.
 

Gm0ney

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I think Boudreau is a Top 10 NHL coach. If the Jets fired Maurice and hired Bruce, I'd support that move 100%. How many times have his teams missed the playoffs? 1 playoff miss in 8 years?
 

YWGinYYZ

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Ditch the assistants first. Personally, I'll give Maurice this year to sort things out - there will be more than enough talent up front and on the blueline (and in net, if they play Helle) that this team should be able to clamber back into PO contention.

If it's more of the same (too many penalties due to lack of discipline, poor PK and PP), then I'd be open to looking for a new coach later this year.

Is Boudreau the coach everyone would want though? Who might come available later?
 

Do or Die

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Well....better special teams (coaching) and more consistent goal tending would raise PM's perceived IQ...pretty quickly.....
 

Gm0ney

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I wouldn't be upset if this happened, bigger problem is out moron assistant coaching staff.

I think if the Jets were willing to go big with a move like this, they wouldn't be hanging on to Huddy, Vincent and Flaherty...
 

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Tough crowd in this thread. I'd give Maurice atleast 2 years. Last season was not on Maurice, it was on Chevy for not giving him an adequate roster. Next season will likely not be on Maurice either as he is likely gonna be breaking a whole bunch of rookies or sophomores into the team
 

Hank Chinaski

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Tough crowd in this thread. I'd give Maurice atleast 2 years. Last season was not on Maurice, it was on Chevy for not giving him an adequate roster. Next season will likely not be on Maurice either as he is likely gonna be breaking a whole bunch of rookies or sophomores into the team

When you go from 99 to 78 (only after a furious surge in the final week) points, it can't be one or the other. Both deserve serious blame for the disaster of 2015-16.
 

johna2626

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Tough crowd in this thread. I'd give Maurice atleast 2 years. Last season was not on Maurice, it was on Chevy for not giving him an adequate roster. Next season will likely not be on Maurice either as he is likely gonna be breaking a whole bunch of rookies or sophomores into the team

WOAH, no way man. Maurice played a major role in what happened last year. Who was putting Stuart on the PK all that time?
 

JetsFan815

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When you go from 99 to 78 (only after a furious surge in the final week) points, it can't be one or the other. Both deserve serious blame for the disaster of 2015-16.

Look at the roster Maurice had, there's only so much a coach can do.

I also don't care about Maurice's past reputation regarding young players. All I know is from his 2.5 years with the Jets he has done a great job with the young players with trusting them and giving them the minutes they needed. Some coaches might have soured on Ehlers, sat him or sent him to the minors after he was struggling with Thorburn on the 3rd line for a couple of months. Maurice didn't and stuck with him. Maurice has his warts but he has show himself to be great coach when given a decent roster, I can't blame him for not doing much with the terrible roster he was given last season.

While I like Boudreau and think he is a good coach, I am not sure how much (if any) of an upgrade he is over Maurice. The Ducks had terrible Corsi consistently until the end of last season. He improved the Ducks corsi % over Carlyle but pretty much any coach will be able to do that
 

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Bush league **** like this is a good way to put yourself on the bottom of the list for every person associated with hockey for a very long time, be it players, coaches, management, or even scouts.

This is borderline Wangian.
 

JetsFan815

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WOAH, no way man. Maurice played a major role in what happened last year. Who was putting Stuart on the PK all that time?

How do we know that Stu's icetime is not being mandated from higher up in the organizational chart? Charlie Huddy runs the D on the bench, I am guessing he has quite a say in Stu's deployments
 
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