Euro: Euro 2020/21 Discussion

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

They all sucked ass in the tournament so what’s it matter

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Crazy to think it's been exactly 7 years.

I recently watched some of those tournament compilation videos of World Cup 2014, and I had had totally forgotten how lucky Argentina had to be to even get to the Final. Like you sometimes hear certain people talk so much about how Argentina deserved to win, and then you see they didn't have a single convincing group stage win, needed extra time to get past Switzerland in the Rd of 16 and penalties to get past Holland in the semifinal. Made our run to the trophy seem pretty convincing in comparison really.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Yes becuase you need a 7-1 win in a knock out stage to be worthy champions. They were the best team in every match they played making them the best team and the most deserving team. Stick to being an apologist for all things racist.

By comparison Germany drew to ghana squeezed out a win against the losers USA and needed extra time against Algeria.

 

[cgf]

Yes becuase you need a 7-1 win in a knock out stage to be worthy champions. They were the best team in every match they played making them the best team and the most deserving team. Stick to being an apologist for all things racist.

By comparison Germany drew to ghana squeezed out a win against the losers USA and needed extra time against Algeria.

Finally you admit it!

 

[robertmac43]

Didn't Argentina keep clean sheets the entirety of the knock-out stages? from what I remember they were incredibly hard to break down.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Didn't Argentina keep clean sheets the entirety of the knock-out stages? from what I remember they were incredibly hard to break down.

You would be correct they didn't concede a goal in about 450 minutes. Until some random German scrub became the luckiest person on the planet.

 

[cgf]

Finishing is a skill

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Didn't Argentina keep clean sheets the entirety of the knock-out stages? from what I remember they were incredibly hard to break down.

They also had a really hard time scoring. Until that guy Messi showed up and hit that free kick in the 120th minute against Germany, oh wait that never happened, it hit row ZZ in the stands.

 

[Jussi]

In the northeast and certain parts of the midwest they do. But I gotta say that a lot of things related to hockey have massively turned me off the sport. I would rather not get into detail about some of them but the lack of rule enforcement alone is bad enough. And then you have goalies who look like the Michelin man. No thanks. I can think of no faster way to sabotage a sport.

Dammit, nobody remembers the Tiger Woods meme anymore.

 

[Evilo]

Germans really shouldn't say anything. It was a miracle they got to the semis.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

They also had a really hard time scoring. Until that guy Messi showed up and hit that free kick in the 120th minute against Germany, oh wait that never happened, it hit row ZZ in the stands.

Lol yes because anyone said differently.

 

[robertmac43]

You would be correct they didn't concede a goal in about 450 minutes. Until some random German scrub became the luckiest person on the planet.

In retrospect, it's crazy how one goal can change the world's view on a player. That lucky player became touted as one of the next superstars based solely on that goal

 

[luiginb]

In retrospect, it's crazy how one goal can change the world's view on a player. That lucky player became touted as one of the next superstars based solely on that goal

Gotze was class in his day, his health issues did him in, like so many others.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Gotze was class in his day, his health issues did him in, like so many others.

More like his laziness

 

[luiginb]

More like his laziness

I can't believe this fake narrative still exists 4 years after his metabolism issues have been revealed.

 

[bluesfan94]

Looks like you're a yob breaking into the stadium until you get punched in the face..then you're a helpless victim. Funny how selective representation of facts can be used to create a spin.

It’s very possible to say that 1) people shouldn’t break into the stadium, 2) if they do, random fans shouldn’t assault them and that 3) both 1 and 2 are instances of shitty English behavior and an inability for English authorities to handle large profile events.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I can't believe this fake narrative still exists 4 years after his metabolism issues have been revealed.

This is the first I’ve heard of it. If it’s true then I’ll be happy to concede

 

[robertmac43]

Gotze was class in his day, his health issues did him in, like so many others.

Oh for sure, he has talent and did have bad luck with health. That being said, I still think the guy was never going to be a top 10 player in this position, and he got overrated due to his "Super Mario" moment.

 

[cgf]

Oh for sure, he has talent and did have bad luck with health. That being said, I still think the guy was never going to be a top 10 player in this position, and he got overrated due to his "Super Mario" moment.

Beyond his health, the biggest problem was that he was miscast because Bayern didn't want to get into the Neymar bidding; when he was always a lot more Iniesta (stylistically) than Messi.

 

[cgf]

This is the first I’ve heard of it. If it’s true then I’ll be happy to concede

Mario Götze - Wikipedia

In early March 2017, it was reported that Götze had been suffering from a metabolic disorder.[130] The health condition was later found out to be myopathy,[131] a muscular disorder which affects the fibres in the muscles, meaning they do not function correctly.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Mario Götze - Wikipedia

Poor kid

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

It’s very possible to say that 1) people shouldn’t break into the stadium, 2) if they do, random fans shouldn’t assault them and that 3) both 1 and 2 are instances of shitty English behavior and an inability for English authorities to handle large profile events.

Its certainly possible to say all that if you acknowledge the context, its also certainly possible to willfully misrepresent the context in order to generate a reaction as was done here.

 

[cgf]

Poor kid

Yeah, Bayern screwed his career up by trying to convince Pep he was a goalscorer...but even if they hadn't, his body was going to make him another Badstuber / Deisler.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Oh for sure, he has talent and did have bad luck with health. That being said, I still think the guy was never going to be a top 10 player in this position, and he got overrated due to his "Super Mario" moment.

I was one of the biggest Gotze haters around but get your facts straight. The Gotze hype maxed out when he helped Dortmund win a league title as an 18 year old and looked fantastic doing that. That was years before that goal. At the time of the goal he had already been controversially snatched by Bayern, and there was already skepticism about his ability to settle at Bayern.

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[robertmac43]

I was one of the biggest Gotze haters around but get your facts straight. The Gotze hype maxed out when he helped Dortmund win a league title as an 18 year old and looked fantastic doing that. That was years before that goal. At the time of the goal he had already been controversially snatched by Bayern, and there was already skepticism about his ability to settle at Bayern.

Oh, the hype was there before the WC, but that goal propelled Gotze's expectations and put home on the radar of more people around the footballing world.... I don't think that is too farfetched to say.