Value of: Erik Karlsson at the draft

[edguy]

Gretzky was sold when we had a cheap owner . Hmmm Who as a cheap owner today ?

He may be cheap but he's also a fanboy.

Wouldnt sell Karlsson even if he could.

 

[Real Smart Sens Fan]

Anyway, here is the list of acceptable trade offers for EK65 straight up, per team: (flame away, but value is there)

ANA: Rakell, Lindholm
ARI: OEL, Domi
BOS: McAvoy, Marchand
BUF: Eichel, Bogo OR Risto, ROR
CGY: Monahan, Hamilton
CAR: Slavin/Faulk/Hanifin, Aho, Lindholm
CHI: Kane
COL: MacK, Barrie OR Landy, Zadorov, 2017 first round pick
CBJ: Saad, Jones, 1st round pick
DAL: Seguin/Benn, Honka
DET: Larkin, Nyquvist, Mantha, Ouellett
EDM: McJesus (add a 2nd round pick to Karlsson) OR Drai, Larsson, 1st round pick
FLA: Ekblad, Trochek
LAK: Doughty, Pearson, 2nd round pick OR Kopitar, Muzzin
MIN: Spurgeon, Nino, Coyle
MTL: Weber, Lekkhonen, 1st round pick OR Pacioretty, Sergachev, Petry
PHI: Provorov, Simmonds, OR Giroux, Stolarz
PIT: Crosby OR Malkin, Cole
SJS: Couture, Vlasic OR Burns, Hertl
STL: Tarasenko, Fabbri, 1st round pick OR Pietrangelo, Schwartz
TBL; Stamkos, Dotchin OR Drouin, Kucherov
TOR: Matthews OR Marner, Rielly, Dermott
VAN: Tanev, Goldobin, Horvat, Hutton
VGK: Duke, 2017, 2018, 2019 1st round picks (for the lol)
WAS: Backstrom, Niskanen or Kuznetsov, Carlson, Burakovsky, Wilson
WPG: Laine, Byfuglien OR Shiefele, Ehlers

I bolded the players who I think might not be made available. A lot of your offers are more than I believe would be offered. That said, there are a lot up there that I would not do.

I simply don't think Karlsson will leave. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I think Karlsson has a lot of Alfie in him and he really wants to finish what his mentor started. And, given that, I just wouldn't trade Karlsson unless for a ridiculous offer.

 

[A Loyal Dog]

If ever Karlsson was available, I would offer the moon for him.

Galchenyuk + Sergachev + Petry + Any other player not named Pacioretty/Price/Weber + 1st 2018 for Karlsson + cap dump(s).

Karlsson is one-of-a-kind. Anyone who thinks that trading their top-4 + top prospect, etc be an overpayment for Karlsson isn't thinking of the fact that they are instantly receiving probably the best D-man in the league. I don't even think my offer above would get Karlsson, but I tried my best to make it not insulting, considering just how great of a player he truly is (and the fact he's still super young, with a great contract, and a lot of great years ahead. I think a generational player like Karlsson would require only quality++ in return.

 

[bert]

Matthews + for Karlsson? LOL

Leafs wouldn't trade Matthews for the entire Sens organization.

Matthews walks on water he is a god among men. Erik Karlsson is but a miesly peasant and couodnt even tie matthews skates if his life depended on it. Matthews will transend time and space meanwhile Karlsson will never be able to add the numbers 3 and 4 together without falling into a deep dark depression.

 

[Boud]

Gretzky was sold when we had a cheap owner . Hmmm Who as a cheap owner today ?

And the dumbest post of the day goes to...

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Matthews walks on water he is a god among men. Erik Karlsson is but a miesly peasant and couodnt even tie matthews skates if his life depended on it. Matthews will transend time and space meanwhile Karlsson will never be able to add the numbers 3 and 4 together without falling into a deep dark depression.

The two closest NHL players who can transcend time and space are Jarnkrok and Josi, they are practically physicists if they aren't playing hockey lol. Source: Met them and had conversations with them haha.

 

[Xspyrit]

Matthews + for Karlsson? LOL

Leafs wouldn't trade Matthews for the entire Sens organization.

In a full decade reading HF, I have read a lot of ridiculous things, but somehow, somebody is always able to raise the bar.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Jonathan Drouin, 1st and 2nd round pick.

 

[SensNation613]

Jonathan Drouin, 1st and 2nd round pick.

Not a chance

 

[elmaco]

Not available at any cost, close the thread.

Karlsson for McDavid in a heartbeat.

 

[The Great Weal]

Anyway, here is the list of acceptable trade offers for EK65 straight up, per team: (flame away, but value is there)

MTL: Weber, Lekkhonen, 1st round pick

Done deal.

 

[Dylonus]

I can't see the Senators even considering a deal in the slightest bit unless it's an extreme overpayment; or it's Laine or Matthews coming back their way.

It's unrealistic to think it'll happen.

 

[nickdawg95]

ROR + risto + nylander +????

 

[Xspyrit]

MTL: Weber, Lekkhonen, 1st round pick OR Pacioretty, Sergachev, Petry

wow didn't see that...

Pacioretty, Sergachev, Petry is good but Weber, Lekkhonen, 1st round pick is really not what the Sens would want. Lekhonen and 1st have not much value in that kind of trade and Weber, while he had a great career and is still a great veteran, is soon 32 y/o and has 9 years left at near 8 M$ per year... No thanks

 

[Panda Bear]

We'll give you Klefbom and Larsson, who combine to make a legitimate top-pairing for only one million more than Karlsson's current cap hit.

Given that they're two of my three favourite Oilers players, that's something alright.

Obviously Karlsson would need to have a reasonable extension signed already.

 

[LondonKendrick]

Given the scenario, Leafs would offer a package of Rielly, a 1st, JVR or Kapanen + throw ins.

I know on HF that barely gets you in on the conversation for Tanev but that's as much as Lou offers IMO.

 

[Beautvillier]

Given the scenario, Leafs would offer a package of Rielly, a 1st, JVR or Kapanen + throw ins.

I know on HF that barely gets you in on the conversation for Tanev but that's as much as Lou offers IMO.

karlsson can get a lot more than that, which is why trading for him is pointless, you'd literally have to gut your roster to get him.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

William Nylander or Mitch Marner

+

1st 2017

+

1st 2018

+

Dermott

and if needed

+

Kapanen.

Huge package would essentially be all in, and rebuild Ottawa instantly.

Leafs chance a cup with Matthews and the other guy left. Maybe bring in Tavares in UFA with the money saved on Nylander/Marner.

The Leafs would be massively dumb to do that

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Matthews walks on water he is a god among men. Erik Karlsson is but a miesly peasant and couodnt even tie matthews skates if his life depended on it. Matthews will transend time and space meanwhile Karlsson will never be able to add the numbers 3 and 4 together without falling into a deep dark depression.

What would be the point of adding a number 1 franchise defenceman if it costs you a franchise centre? Those don't grow on trees either.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

The Leafs would be massively dumb to do that

Dumb not to do that.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Dumb not to do that.

Ya no....you don't trade five prime assets for one. If Marner becomes anything close to Patrick Kane it would look like one of the worst deals in NHL history.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Ya no....you don't trade five prime assets for one. If Marner becomes anything close to Patrick Kane it would look like one of the worst deals in NHL history.

Yes you're right. I wouldnt trade Marner for Patrick Kane either since they are essentially the same players.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Yes you're right. I wouldnt trade Marner for Patrick Kane either since they are essentially the same players.

Did I see they are essentially the same player? Those are the high point comparisons for Marner. Would Chicago ship off Kane and 4 other prime assets for Karlsson if they didn't have Duncan Keith...I would say no.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Did I see they are essentially the same player? Those are the high point comparisons for Marner. Would Chicago ship off Kane and 4 other prime assets for Karlsson if they didn't have Duncan Keith...I would say no.

Marner is no Kane.

Leafs do not have a Duncan Keith caliber defenceman let alone a Karlsson.

So yes, it would be idiotic to not accept that trade from the Leafs standpoint.

 

[GoLeafsGo96]

Marner is no Kane.

Leafs do not have a Duncan Keith caliber defenceman let alone a Karlsson.

So yes, it would be idiotic to not accept that trade from the Leafs standpoint.

Given contract situations and cap hits, its not worth it for Toronto to make that deal. Karlsson with 2 years left of control is not worth that package for the Leafs.

Not idiotic to not accept that trade from the Leafs standpoint at all.

Moot anyway since if Karlsson is ever traded by the Sens, the last team they would deal him to is the Leafs.