Proposal: (EMD) - [TOR) - Larson for Nylander (Shakened Not Stireed)

[MagicalRazor]

EDM got fleeced it for Larson , Hall was always better and more valuable, now hes on legendary status .

Larson isn't a bad player at all but he's defeintly not valued at HALLING, W. Nylander

 

[82Ninety42011]

Nurse has been their best D. I would also rate Klef higher despite his tough year. He's definitely not their best D and would never command a young 60 point player who can go C or wing. Just because your GM ****ed up (a bunch of trades) doesn't mean others will. No ****ing chance. He's not a top pairing dman and he has next to no offence. He's not a plug by any means, but he's not worth a young stud, despite your GMs stupidity

Not my GM Im cheering for the sad sack Canucks. Yes they got drilled on that trade but as a RHD he's still valuable. Didn't realize he's regressed to be passed by Nurse and Klef my bad if true.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Not my GM Im cheering for the sad sack Canucks. Yes they got drilled on that trade but as a RHD he's still valuable. Didn't realize he's regressed to be passed by Nurse and Klef my bad if true.

Klef had a real down year but I believe he’s still their best chance at a #1 D. That being said nurse made big strides this season, Larson is just the same old. I don’t see him as a top 2 on any team. Especially compared to Rielly when people won’t admit he’s a #1 either, yet he’s a mile ahead offensively and similar defensively.

 

[ElPrimeTime]

Value of OP favors the Oilers, but from a needs perspective, the Oilers cannot make this trade with no suitable top 4 RD on the team other than Larsson.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Just because Edmonton traded a top offensive player for Larsson doesn't mean they'll get one back for him in a trade

We can't afford to trade him whether we could or not. Neither team does this.

 

[Apollo Leaf]

Neither team does this.

Bad value for the Leafs, while the Oilers create another hole.

 

[Menzinger]

Leafs decline.

Larsson is a great player but Nylander has the potential to be more impactful once he enters his prime.

 

[MapleLeafistan]

No

 

[TOGuy14]

Edmonton cannot and will not trade Larsson.

He is a quality second pair D, but because of their massive over payment the trade would be benchmarked against the value of Hall now. No way Oilers can move him now without it becoming an even bigger embarrassment for them.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

We can't afford to trade him whether we could or not. Neither team does this.

Edmonton would do this without a doubt. It almost makes up for the first trade

 

[rent free]

I want yamahato. Where's yahamato

 

[therealkoho]

the only Larsson the Leafs might do a 1 for 1 swap plays in the Arizona desert

but as long as Edmonton throws in either a 1st or a 3rd + Hopkins we'll take it under consideration

 

[rent free]

If your argument is Adam Larsson is below average and / or a bust your argument is wildly stupid.

He’s a defensive defenceman. Judging him on points is... well... stupid.

You could say judging him on points is well...

Pointless

/thread

 

[therealkoho]

And Toronto will never be getting past round one with that defence.

Also Draisaitl >>> Nylander

nice to be in the post season that's for sure

 

[rent free]

I’m not here to criticize Nylander, just saying st the moment he would not bring back a player like Adam Larsson.
Perhaps one day he becomes a reliable top 6 guy..obviously now he is a inconsistent young forward trying to find a place in Nhl..no harm in that. Many young players in same boat.

He has way more value than larsson. Nylander would be your 3rd/4th best forward

 

[Warden of the North]

Why do the Leafs need a shakeup?

What makes Larsson worth Nylander?

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Why do the Leafs need a shakeup?

What makes Larsson worth Nylander?

Because it worked out so well for Edmonton, maybe the Leafs will want to try trading a top line winger for a #4 defenseman!

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Adam Larsson would immediately become Toronto best defenseman.

No, no he would not.

 

[King1s]

No thanks

 

[rent free]

Why do the Leafs need a shakeup?

What makes Larsson worth Nylander?

because hockeyanalysisgenius said so and he's a genius. its is his name

 

[ChaoticOrange]

the only Larsson the Leafs might do a 1 for 1 swap plays in the Arizona desert

but as long as Edmonton throws in either a 1st or a 3rd + Hopkins we'll take it under consideration

You guys are hilarious.

‘Kapanen/JVR’s rights/Tyler Bozak/Josh Leivo have LOADS of value,! Him and other spare crap is totally a fair offer for a top four defenceman!’

‘Top four defenceman? Pfft you’d have to add your top ten first or a top six C to be worth our one dimensional winger’

Jones/Johansen
Hall/Larsson
Henrique/Vatanen

 

[PinkFly]

I've been saying all season the Leafs defence isn't built to the playoffs.

Where does that leave the Oilers defence which is inferior to Toronto's in every way imaginable? The Oilers defence isn't built for the NHL. I think it's more suited to the AHL.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Where does that leave the Oilers defence which is inferior to Toronto's in every way imaginable? The Oilers defence isn't built for the NHL. I think it's more suited to the AHL.

Says the fan of the team employing Zaitsev and Polak...

The Oilers have some weak links and our skilled young defencemen are coming up he pipeline but need time like Bear/Jones/Lagesson(top pairing on his Swedish club) Berglund (top pairing on his Swedish club, currently emerging as a star in the playoffs) and Samorukov. We didn’t have a Dermott ready to come up so Sekera going down took pretty much the whole house of cards with it. Remember it was virtually identical to the 16/17 Oiler defence, which even you have to admit was better than the Leafs defence last year.

Losing Sekera for most of the season hurt us badly as last season he was arguably our most consistent defenceman. Losing him left us exposed when Klefbom was trying to play through pain, which forced Nurse into a top pairing role, which made Larsson have to do more babysitting, which meant guys not suited to the top four saw tougher matchups than they should have (Russell and Benning).

 

[Martin Skoula]

You guys are hilarious.

‘Kapanen/JVR’s rights/Tyler Bozak/Josh Leivo have LOADS of value,! Him and other spare crap is totally a fair offer for a top four defenceman!’

‘Top four defenceman? Pfft you’d have to add your top ten first or a top six C to be worth our one dimensional winger’

Jones/Johansen
Hall/Larsson
Henrique/Vatanen

Nylander > Henrique and Vatanen >> Larsson. Jones >>> Larsson.

Mid 1st + 2nd + 2nd/Hamilton
Mid 1st + 2nd + 2nd/Hamonic
2nd + 2nd/Boychuk
Pokka + garbage/Leddy
Setoguchi + Coyle + late 1st/Burns + 2nd

Just because your GM is actively sabotaging your franchise doesn't mean it's normal for others to do so. No sane GM would pay a top line forward for Larsson

 

[A91]

Where does that leave the Oilers defence which is inferior to Toronto's in every way imaginable? The Oilers defence isn't built for the NHL. I think it's more suited to the AHL.

It really isn't though. When all are playing as they should (last season) our D is vastly superior.
This season
a) Lars had to cover for a bad Klefbom, then had to deal with the passing of his father.
b) Benning came crashing back down to reality, barely an NHLer
c) Klefbom was clearly injured play suffered a lot went from a #2 dman to a bottom pairing guy
d) Sekera tore his ACL and does not look the same

Nurse and Russel were the only bright spots consistently this season. Talbot also shat the bed making our D seem much worse than it is.

Oilers D >> Leafs D

(But don't worry because the Leafs Offense >>>>> Oilers offense )