Player Discussion David Backes III

[KrejciMVP]

Nope. He's old Lou. Toss him out with the used tape and broken sticks

If you're gonna be a bust it's best to be a nice guy.

The nice guy bust line

Beleskey- Backes- Hayes

JK btw

 

[GordonHowe]

People hate his age & contract and thus want him gone for the unknown Replacement Player X that is sure to be so much better

I want him back if he decides he's healthy enough (w/r/t concussions) to play. IMO he is still a valuable player for the Bruins. FWIW.

We shouldn't blame the player for signing the contract he was offered.

I don't know if David can come back next season with a solid performance.

I'm a big fan.

If he's "done," then I guess he's done. But I'll be rooting for him.

 

[BMC]

I'm glad he's not having any post concussion symptoms and look forward to seeing him in camp.

 

[Estlin]

I don't know if David can come back next season with a solid performance.

I'm a big fan.

If he's "done," then I guess he's done. But I'll be rooting for him.

I doubt that he will. He's a year older and probably slower. The best that Boston got out of him was his first season, and even that wasn't all that great, especially given the $6 million price tag.

It was a bad contract then and remains one now. Backes sounds like a great guy and good team-mate, but I'm not holding my breath for much from him this coming season.

 

[DKH]

This is a perfect situation for Boston and Backes,

If I was coaching the Bruins I would have plenty of areas I’d use him

My assessment looking at him as a coach

Off ICE
Locker room presence - leadership and accountability

Plays through all sorts of pain like Mark Recchi did

When teams took extra jabs and were a little more physical with younger players David Backes was right there to answer

ON ICE

Plus PP net front presence - superb hand and eye coordination for tips, great positioning for screens, plus passer - skilled top 6 offensive player on PP

Final minute of games he’s your best guy on the high wall/Boards getting puck out which is why Cassidy often uses him

Why did Lucic and Backes clean up with ENG because many D were scared shit less of Lucic in a one on one puck battle and Backes is fearless and smart plus will go through them.

He’s their best forward body checker and hits per TOI per points over past 2 years I believe trailed only Foligno

He also provides face off insurance in final minutes of pulled goalie defending / and even when not taking them he looks like Reggie White going for any puck heading back to the point

With a fluid bottom 6 I want this guy there for stability

He signed his contract I move on to what he can do to help them win- grousing about his contract incessantly is the sign of someone who can’t move on- not good.

When you can’t get by the contract or never played serious team sports it’s easy to dismiss him as GARBAGE

 

[KrejciMVP]

This is a perfect situation for Boston and Backes,

If I was coaching the Bruins I would have plenty of areas I’d use him

My assessment looking at him as a coach

Off ICE
Locker room presence - leadership and accountability

Plays through all sorts of pain like Mark Recchi did

When teams took extra jabs and were a little more physical with younger players David Backes was right there to answer

ON ICE

Plus PP net front presence - superb hand and eye coordination for tips, great positioning for screens, plus passer - skilled top 6 offensive player on PP

Final minute of games he’s your best guy on the high wall/Boards getting puck out which is why Cassidy often uses him

Why did Lucic and Backes clean up with ENG because many D were scared **** less of Lucic in a one on one puck battle and Backes is fearless and smart plus will go through them.

He’s their best forward body checker and hits per TOI per points over past 2 years I believe trailed only Foligno

He also provides face off insurance in final minutes of pulled goalie defending / and even when not taking them he looks like Reggie White going for any puck heading back to the point

With a fluid bottom 6 I want this guy there for stability

He signed his contract I move on to what he can do to help them win- grousing about his contract incessantly is the sign of someone who can’t move on- not good.

When you can’t get by the contract or never played serious team sports it’s easy to dismiss him as GARBAGE

You should have seen the Scott Gomez days in MTL, would you argue those fans weren't justified to expect more? I think in any sport in any city if you sign or have a big contract, there will be expectations.

Backes is older now and it's not really possible to for him to play like a 6 mill player, you're right, lets take what we can get.

 

[JRull86]

You should have seen the Scott Gomez days in MTL, would you argue those fans weren't justified to expect more? I think in any sport in any city if you sign or have a big contract, there will be expectations.

Backes is older now and it's not really possible to for him to play like a 6 mill player, you're right, lets take what we can get.

Did we seriously just compare Scott Gomez to Backes?

I get people dislike the contract, but that's a stretch and a half. Gomez was complete utter trash.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Did we seriously just compare Scott Gomez to Backes?

I get people dislike the contract, but that's a stretch and a half. Gomez was complete utter trash.

shows you really don't watch bc gomez had 59 points and 38 points his 1st 2 seasons in Montreal. Also had 14 points in 19 playoff games his 1st year. His 3rd year was horrible but he was finished as a productive NHL player at that point. Wasn't really comparing the 2 players rather pointing out both had expectations. I don't have anything against Backes, I liked him as a St Louis Blue player, I do think the Bruins payed him for his decline years just like Montreal was paying for Gomez

Gomez 1st 2 seasons 97 points regular season 18 playoff points
Backes 1st 2 season 71 points regular season 7 playoff points

 

[BNHL]

This is a perfect situation for Boston and Backes,

If I was coaching the Bruins I would have plenty of areas I’d use him

My assessment looking at him as a coach

Off ICE
Locker room presence - leadership and accountability

Plays through all sorts of pain like Mark Recchi did

When teams took extra jabs and were a little more physical with younger players David Backes was right there to answer

ON ICE

Plus PP net front presence - superb hand and eye coordination for tips, great positioning for screens, plus passer - skilled top 6 offensive player on PP

Final minute of games he’s your best guy on the high wall/Boards getting puck out which is why Cassidy often uses him

Why did Lucic and Backes clean up with ENG because many D were scared **** less of Lucic in a one on one puck battle and Backes is fearless and smart plus will go through them.

He’s their best forward body checker and hits per TOI per points over past 2 years I believe trailed only Foligno

He also provides face off insurance in final minutes of pulled goalie defending / and even when not taking them he looks like Reggie White going for any puck heading back to the point

With a fluid bottom 6 I want this guy there for stability

He signed his contract I move on to what he can do to help them win- grousing about his contract incessantly is the sign of someone who can’t move on- not good.

When you can’t get by the contract or never played serious team sports it’s easy to dismiss him as GARBAGE

So much for so little. I personally couldn't care less if he stays or goes,I don't think he'd be missed,except by the sentimental bunch. I admit I felt the same way about Recchi the Savior!

 

[Don Cherry]

I had to read the title twice, but indeed... One of Backes' favorite books is "Everyone Poops"



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Actually, his favorite book is "Everyone Poops, Especially In The Playoffs".

 

[Sevendust]

shows you really don't watch bc gomez had 59 points and 38 points his 1st 2 seasons in Montreal. Also had 14 points in 19 playoff games his 1st year. His 3rd year was horrible but he was finished as a productive NHL player at that point. Wasn't really comparing the 2 players rather pointing out both had expectations. I don't have anything against Backes, I liked him as a St Louis Blue player, I do think the Bruins payed him for his decline years just like Montreal was paying for Gomez

Gomez 1st 2 seasons 97 points regular season 18 playoff points
Backes 1st 2 season 71 points regular season 7 playoff points

With the injuries he had the last season, I am amazed about the amount of games he had played. Guy was never at 100 percent at any point. He isnt the same player he used to be but I am not ready to call him finished nor I am not able to see what kind of warrior he is. Agressive beast and a role model for the youngsters. He will have a great season on the checking line if his health can keep up.

 

[BMC]

With the injuries he had the last season, I am amazed about the amount of games he had played. Guy was never at 100 percent at any point. He isnt the same player he used to be but I am not ready to call him finished nor I am not able to see what kind of warrior he is. Agressive beast and a role model for the youngsters. He will have a great season on the checking line if his health can keep up.

Coming back so soon after having a chunk of his colon removed was amazing. The guy has no quit in him.

 

[hrdpuk]

Coming back so soon after having a chunk of his colon removed was amazing. The guy has no quit in him.

Totally agree especially for someone his age. surgery takes its toll.
It's a good probability that his colon problems have been going on prior to last year and last year reached a level that required surgery. He'll come back strong this year.

 

[DKH]

You should have seen the Scott Gomez days in MTL, would you argue those fans weren't justified to expect more? I think in any sport in any city if you sign or have a big contract, there will be expectations.

Backes is older now and it's not really possible to for him to play like a 6 mill player, you're right, lets take what we can get.

Get past the money

 

[Dueling Banjos]

Coming back so soon after having a chunk of his colon removed was amazing. The guy has no quit in him.

That was amazing.

If he manages to become faster in the offseason (i am pretty sure he will), then that's all he needs for the upcoming season. Everything else is already there and will fall into place.

 

[bearcountry17]

You should have seen the Scott Gomez days in MTL, would you argue those fans weren't justified to expect more? I think in any sport in any city if you sign or have a big contract, there will be expectations.

Backes is older now and it's not really possible to for him to play like a 6 mill player, you're right, lets take what we can get.

Gomez was making 7.36 mill when the salary cap was under 60 million. He was 11th highest paid player in the league his least year as a hab(as far back as i could find) when he scored 2 goals in 38 games. Backes is tied with 21 other players as the 71st highest paid player in the league next season. His contract and Backes' aren't really comparable.

shows you really don't watch bc gomez had 59 points and 38 points his 1st 2 seasons in Montreal. Also had 14 points in 19 playoff games his 1st year. His 3rd year was horrible but he was finished as a productive NHL player at that point. Wasn't really comparing the 2 players rather pointing out both had expectations. I don't have anything against Backes, I liked him as a St Louis Blue player, I do think the Bruins payed him for his decline years just like Montreal was paying for Gomez

Gomez 1st 2 seasons 97 points regular season 18 playoff points
Backes 1st 2 season 71 points regular season 7 playoff points

Using only players who played at least half the season. Backes last season had the 31st highest PPG for RWs in the league. Gomez had the 68th highest PPG for centers in his 2nd year. he was outside the top 100 by his 3rd. Backes would have to fall off hard to be comparable to Gomez.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Get past the money

I can, not the first and certainly not the last bad contract well see in Boston.

 

[DKH]

I can, not the first and certainly not the last bad contract well see in Boston.

112 points
Best first line in the game
Most points first year players

 

[KrejciMVP]

112 points
Best first line in the game
Most points first year players

its all about the playoffs

 

[DKH]

its all about the playoffs

It’s all about enjoyment all year from draft to regular season to playoffs to me

Everyday watching and reading about team

 

[DKH]

Gomez was making 7.36 mill when the salary cap was under 60 million. He was 11th highest paid player in the league his least year as a hab(as far back as i could find) when he scored 2 goals in 38 games. Backes is tied with 21 other players as the 71st highest paid player in the league next season. His contract and Backes' aren't really comparable.



Using only players who played at least half the season. Backes last season had the 31st highest PPG for RWs in the league. Gomez had the 68th highest PPG for centers in his 2nd year. he was outside the top 100 by his 3rd. Backes would have to fall off hard to be comparable to Gomez.

Bad news- you wrecked his weekend

Good news- it wasn’t next weekends long one

 

[Bruinaura]

Backes is going to be on NHL Network in a few minutes if anyone is interested

 

[Bruinaura]

So he said he's down about 10 pounds, around the 210 mark. Wants to be first on the puck instead of chasing it.

They asked where he sees himself in 6-7 years and he said he wants to go to law school. I did not see that coming

 

[neelynugs]

This is a perfect situation for Boston and Backes,

If I was coaching the Bruins I would have plenty of areas I’d use him

My assessment looking at him as a coach

Off ICE
Locker room presence - leadership and accountability

Plays through all sorts of pain like Mark Recchi did

When teams took extra jabs and were a little more physical with younger players David Backes was right there to answer

ON ICE

Plus PP net front presence - superb hand and eye coordination for tips, great positioning for screens, plus passer - skilled top 6 offensive player on PP

Final minute of games he’s your best guy on the high wall/Boards getting puck out which is why Cassidy often uses him

Why did Lucic and Backes clean up with ENG because many D were scared **** less of Lucic in a one on one puck battle and Backes is fearless and smart plus will go through them.

He’s their best forward body checker and hits per TOI per points over past 2 years I believe trailed only Foligno

He also provides face off insurance in final minutes of pulled goalie defending / and even when not taking them he looks like Reggie White going for any puck heading back to the point

With a fluid bottom 6 I want this guy there for stability

He signed his contract I move on to what he can do to help them win- grousing about his contract incessantly is the sign of someone who can’t move on- not good.

When you can’t get by the contract or never played serious team sports it’s easy to dismiss him as GARBAGE

do you think backes can center the 3rd line? has anyone found out the mystery behind backes
and wanting to/not wanting to/not capable of playing center?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

do you think backes can center the 3rd line? has anyone found out the mystery behind backes
and wanting to/not wanting to/not capable of playing center?

I just think Cassidy and Company see his value more at wing where they happen to be a little on the light side.

I want him at center. I think a lot of folks would agree. But Cassidy and I are often at odds and I see this as likely another example where we see things differently.