Post-Game Talk: Caps/Bruins, 12/7/16, 8:00pm ET, Phone Booth

[hb12xchamps]

And he's not only failed to address the issues that cost them in the playoffs, he's made them actively worse. This team is listless and struggling to play a cohesive game. They have shown no signs of improving the breakout or transition play. Their special teams play is horrific currently. The offensive system he's attempting has actually made the depth scoring even worse.

You want to know who won the Jack Adams award before Trotz? Bob Hartley (fired), Patrick Roy (resigned), and Paul MacLean (fired).

The only thing keeping me from fully jumping on the fire Trotz bandwagon is the lack of good alternatives out there right now. But if a quality coach gets axed elsewhere, I'd almost certainly take them over Barry at this point.

Pretty solid coach down in the AHL who has done a great job developing the youth and is big on puck possession

 

[Hivemind]

I want Darryl Sutter.

I'm not convinced Sutter would be a much better coach systematically than Trotz in terms of generating consistent offense. But it couldn't be substantially worse than what we've seen since the Pittsburgh game, either. And at least Sutter has a recent playoff track record.

 

[SpinningEdge]

WTH happened? I watched the first half of the first period and then went to work out. Now I get home and it's tied and people are ranting in the thread.

You've been around for awhile. This doesn't really surprise you, does it?!

"Hope for the best. Expect the worst." - that should be the Caps slogan each year....

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

He can insure future earnings against his current $2.85M salary. He cannot insure against the raise he would be getting on his next contract.



You can argue with the economists that established the concept I referenced in the previous post. This is a known concept.

So you have to switch to another sport when you are thoroughly countered in every aspect of this debate?

I can argue with any opinion you post. I know what I know. Do I need to provide you with links about famous people insuring their hands, legs, etc?

The only thing you countered me with is boredom honestly. I'm moving on unless you can somehow prove Alzner can't get a giant insurance policy.

 

[Calicaps]

Refs are letting Bruins maul Caps. So much obstruction.

So have the Caps been the better team most of the game in spite of the score?

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

And he's not only failed to address the issues that cost them in the playoffs, he's made them actively worse. This team is listless and struggling to play a cohesive game. They have shown no signs of improving the breakout or transition play. Their special teams play is horrific currently. The offensive system he's attempting has actually made the depth scoring even worse.

You want to know who won the Jack Adams award before Trotz? Bob Hartley (fired), Patrick Roy (resigned), and Paul MacLean (fired).

The only thing keeping me from fully jumping on the fire Trotz bandwagon is the lack of good alternatives out there right now. But if a quality coach gets axed elsewhere, I'd almost certainly take them over Barry at this point.

I didn't know the playoffs started in December this year, must have missed that, did they slip it into the CBA?

You said it yourself, the regular season Caps are not the playoff Caps. Why not wait until you claim this team is "actively worse" for the playoffs?

Also were all 3 of those coaches coming off of a Presidents trophy and actively well above .500 when they were fired?

The Chicken Littles on this board are contradicting themselves with the rhetoric of "This team is not going to do well in the playoffs, just look at how we usually rock the regular season and flame out in the post season!"

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

Great time to turn the puck over in the neutral zone. Jesus.

 

[hb12xchamps]

Well I'd rather they struggle now with the hope they get in a groove in the 2nd half of the season then what happened last year.

Agreed. Flip the script and get hot going into the playoffs. A team that does that always seems to be hoisting the cup

 

[Calicaps]

You've been around for awhile. This doesn't really surprise you, does it?!

"Hope for the best. Expect the worst." - that should be the Caps slogan each year....

Yeah, but that first was the best period they'd played in several games.

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

So have the Caps been the better team most of the game in spite of the score?

No. Bruins have owned the 2nd and 3rd.

 

[Capsman]

Caps haven't looked very physical this year. Manhandled a lot this year. Tonight is no exception.

They are trying to simulate the style that has been winning Stanley Cups of late. Problem is that Trotz is way out of his element with this.

 

[hb12xchamps]

So have the Caps been the better team most of the game in spite of the score?

No. Bruins had 17 shots in a row before the Caps had one

 

[Hivemind]

Pretty solid coach down in the AHL who has done a great job developing the youth and is big on puck possession

I like Mann, and if it gets bad enough up here I would be on board with him taking the reigns. But I'd rather wait a while longer to see if either Trotz can right the ship or if someone like Lindy Ruff or Darryl Sutter gets canned.

 

[BackToTheBasics]

So have the Caps been the better team most of the game in spite of the score?

They went over a period without a SINGLE shot. That's all you need to know.

 

[Calicaps]

No. Bruins have owned the 2nd and 3rd.

No. Bruins had 17 shots in a row before the Caps had one

They went over a period without a SINGLE shot. That's all you need to know.

Oy... and I just heard that Nisky is hurt.

 

[SpinningEdge]

Caps had 2 shots in 31 minutes. That's two shots in over half the game. By default, this means caps were not better team tonight.

 

[SimplySensational]

****ing Kuznetsov, turns the puck over every rush in OT...

 

[hb12xchamps]

I like Mann, and if it gets bad enough up here I would be on board with him taking the reigns. But I'd rather wait a while longer to see if either Trotz can right the ship or if someone like Lindy Ruff or Darryl Sutter gets canned.

I would too. But promoting Mann is such a Caps move

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Backy thank you

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Every available coach is flawed. That's what is so humorous about this. The grass is always greener. While you all grandstand about how awful Trotz is and how he's comparable to all these other scrub coaches that were fired, you're also all advocating for coaches who were fired for the same ****.


It's almost too much.

 

[twabby]

Caps with a bull **** win

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

They were just trolling us....GG Caps!

 

[BackToTheBasics]

Two undeserved wins in a row. Nothing is going to change.

 

[Hivemind]

I didn't know the playoffs started in December this year, must have missed that, did they slip it into the CBA?

You said it yourself, the regular season Caps are not the playoff Caps. Why not wait until you claim this team is "actively worse" for the playoffs?

Also were all 3 of those coaches coming off of a Presidents trophy and actively well above .500 when they were fired?

The Chicken Littles on this board are contradicting themselves with the rhetoric of "This team is not going to do well in the playoffs, just look at how we usually rock the regular season and flame out in the post season!"

I said THE ISSUES that have cost them in the playoffs have been made worse. They've been ousted from the playoffs multiple times in the Ovechkin era by a lack of depth scoring, and that is the number one issue haunting the team right now. What track record have either Barry Trotz or the Capitals demonstrated for suddenly being able to turn it on in the playoffs?

I also hate to break it you, but the Capitals have 14 wins and 10 losses, which is not "well above" .500 hockey. Not to mention they're barely hanging onto the last playoff spot in the East.

 

[Calicaps]

I would too. But promoting Mann is such a Caps move

No thanks on Ruff. Sutter, hell yes.