Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals/Rumours '17 - '18 (post 'em here)

[CREW99AW]

Going to have to make a hockey trade if they want D, the free agent class stinks.

Cal De Haan and Carlsson are probably the 2 best D headed for the ufa market. CDH a solid #3 , reportedly wanted $5m per on a long-term extension.
Isles have a bunch of cheap kids pushing for roster spots from the AHL and are gonna let CDH walk.
With the cap rising, some team is gonna overpay him.

 

[DKH]

I'm not the biggest Evander Kane fan in the world, but i think he would look good on the 2nd line wing.

Rather see DeBrusk, Bjork, Heinen, and when healthy get those spots

 

[DKH]

I don't have the numbers in front of me to check , but I'm pretty sure in today's scoring age, 40 points is more second line territory than third.

I said he would get 40 if Krejci out but he's looking he could at 3rd line

 

[Mainehockey33]

Is there any defenseman out there that could be our next Seidenberg? Relatively cheap to acquire defenseman that can play in the top 4, sounds too good to be true but look at what Seidenberg cost to get, practically nothing.

We already have more than enough decent forwards when healthy, I still think we need another solid defenseman to anchor the back end.

 

[DKH]

Is there any defenseman out there that could be our next Seidenberg? Relatively cheap to acquire defenseman that can play in the top 4, sounds too good to be true but look at what Seidenberg cost to get, practically nothing.

We already have more than enough decedent forwards when healthy, I still think we need another solid defenseman to anchor the back end.

I like de Haan going to watch him and Barzal spec tonight

But I like RNH and he was so so in his trip here

Zboril still intriguing to me - he looked like he was a dog aware of an 'invisible fence' and played very controlled

I guess scouts are concerned so I must have caught him a few times

He does lead D in +/-

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Is there any defenseman out there that could be our next Seidenberg? Relatively cheap to acquire defenseman that can play in the top 4, sounds too good to be true but look at what Seidenberg cost to get, practically nothing.

We already have more than enough decedent forwards when healthy, I still think we need another solid defenseman to anchor the back end.

So who are these decedent forwards?

 

[sarge88]

I don't have the numbers in front of me to check , but I'm pretty sure in today's scoring age, 40 points is more second line territory than third.

Could be right...

I just don’t have a ton of faith that his offensive game is good enough to allow them to be a legit contender.

 

[Mainehockey33]

So who are these decedent forwards?

I probably have more confidence in the rookies then most, but when you have guys like Backes and Heinen on the third line, you’re doing pretty good.

 

[JP Nolan]

I like de Haan going to watch him and Barzal spec tonight

But I like RNH and he was so so in his trip here

Zboril still intriguing to me - he looked like he was a dog aware of an 'invisible fence' and played very controlled

I guess scouts are concerned so I must have caught him a few times

He does lead D in +/-

Are you saying Zboril is playing well and almost ready ???. I have high hopes for him. Can he be as good as Carlo ?

 

[Mainehockey33]

So who are these decedent forwards?

I see what you did there...

 

[DKH]

Are you saying Zboril is playing well and almost ready ???. I have high hopes for him. Can he be as good as Carlo ?

No.

I thought he was concentrating 100% on defense - he didn't roam one although Lauzon did. He patrolled the front of the net like an animal near a cave entrance rarely straying far - he did make a couple of hits in back and off to side but had support and got back fast

The last game I watched McAvoy live in college was at Lowell last March and McAvoy played that way - he took few if any chance nowhere near what he does now

I would not rule Zboril out - at 100 AHL games we will know

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I probably have more confidence in the rookies then most, but when you have guys like Backes and Heinen on the third line, you’re doing pretty good.

thinking that the question was just because of the type... decedent instead of decent... sort of funny but probably the result of spell check I'm guessing. still, it would be interesting to know which of the guys were decedent I suppose... and then I see that you got this yourself later in the thread before I replied... so late to the party again as usual for myself

 

[Mainehockey33]

thinking that the question was just because of the type... decedent instead of decent... sort of funny but probably the result of spell check I'm guessing. still, it would be interesting to know which of the guys were decedent I suppose... and then I see that you got this yourself later in the thread before I replied... so late to the party again as usual for myself

Damn spell check, I meant to say the forwards are exquisite.

 

[b in vancouver]

After spending half the summer trumpeting Matt Duchene and willing to give up Carlo++ for him - and then watching him flounder in Ottawa, I should probably have some kind of moratorium placed on me.

 

[Ratty]

So who are these decedent forwards?

They're all very much alive; some more than others.

 

[World of Wardlow]

After spending half the summer trumpeting Matt Duchene and willing to give up Carlo++ for him - and then watching him flounder in Ottawa, I should probably have some kind of moratorium placed on me.

I'm really glad we didn't do that.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

After spending half the summer trumpeting Matt Duchene and willing to give up Carlo++ for him - and then watching him flounder in Ottawa, I should probably have some kind of moratorium placed on me.

I didn't want Duchene but I will cut you a break... the kid is obviously talented

but the whole Duchene thing illustrates a greater point that ive been arguing on for the past 10-15 years here... and that's where guys can get broken by their situations... guys can become losers if exposed to losing for too long... if they become conditioned to accepting losing, they more likely than not, will be losers wherever they go imo

its interesting that when I look at rnh... I feel I see signs that he hasn't been damaged beyond repair yet in Edmonton. I might be wrong about that. I try to hear what guys say in their little interviews... I try to watch patterns of their play on the ice... its no exact science to be sure and I have been wrong about guys I thought would never become winners.

phil kessel might not fit my example perfectly since he started in a winning enviorment in boston... but he seams to be more of a team player now that he was earlier in his career... I might have to give him props.

I do think character of the player is far more important than the analytics people will say. the analytics people might argue a guy like Duchene is so fast... and he excels in some particular statistical category... but to me, I just really saw some major character concerns with him. it isn't at all surprising to me that he hasn't caught on in Ottawa.

at the same time... he Is very talented. if he suddenly puts up 20 points in the next 20 games tht wouldn't terribly surprise me either

I just don't think that he has the X factor to be a leader to a winning situation in Ottawa or anywhere else

 

[PlayMakers]

After spending half the summer trumpeting Matt Duchene and willing to give up Carlo++ for him - and then watching him flounder in Ottawa, I should probably have some kind of moratorium placed on me.

You can put me in that camp too.

 

[b in vancouver]

I didn't want Duchene but I will cut you a break... the kid is obviously talented

but the whole Duchene thing illustrates a greater point that ive been arguing on for the past 10-15 years here... and that's where guys can get broken by their situations... guys can become losers if exposed to losing for too long... if they become conditioned to accepting losing, they more likely than not, will be losers wherever they go imo

its interesting that when I look at rnh... I feel I see signs that he hasn't been damaged beyond repair yet in Edmonton. I might be wrong about that. I try to hear what guys say in their little interviews... I try to watch patterns of their play on the ice... its no exact science to be sure and I have been wrong about guys I thought would never become winners.

phil kessel might not fit my example perfectly since he started in a winning enviorment in boston... but he seams to be more of a team player now that he was earlier in his career... I might have to give him props.

I do think character of the player is far more important than the analytics people will say. the analytics people might argue a guy like Duchene is so fast... and he excels in some particular statistical category... but to me, I just really saw some major character concerns with him. it isn't at all surprising to me that he hasn't caught on in Ottawa.

at the same time... he Is very talented. if he suddenly puts up 20 points in the next 20 games tht wouldn't terribly surprise me either

I just don't think that he has the X factor to be a leader to a winning situation in Ottawa or anywhere else

I agree. I harp on the 'creating a winning professional atmosphere is more important than getting high draft picks' - all the time.

My want for Duchene was mostly that I felt they were that one impact forward away from being Stanley Cup favourites and he checked a lot of boxes for me. He wouldn't be counted on as the 'go to guy' but, much like Backes, provide that versatile depth. Whether on Krejci's wing or centring the third line. And with the prospect depth - I thought they could afford to move some picks and kids.

Outside of injuries and Beleskey, near everyone has either met or exceeded expectations this year (especially with Rask rounding into form) - but going into the year I thought that was a bit too much to hope for and thought Duchene would add a safety net.

 

[b in vancouver]

You can put me in that camp too.

Thanks man. Makes me feel better.
It's tough realizing why we're not NHL GMs. I gave up on my NHL dreams - now I can't even do management? Where's the tequila?

 

[Bruinaura]

Damn spell check, I meant to say the forwards are exquisite.

Extinguished, you say?

 

[pineapplestastegood]

Yeah but you can keep getting picks and rebuilding and having young players with POTENTIAL (most of whom will never reach their potential) instead of trying to win. We can become the hockey version of Logan's Run, no one over 23 allowed on the team, if you are 24, superstar or not, off you go for somebidy younger.

If that's the direction they go in, then fine. I fear they're going to try to do too many things at once, instead of picking a direction and sticking with it. It won't surprise me one bit to see them waste picks on a stupid rental at the deadline.

Cal De Haan and Carlsson are probably the 2 best D headed for the ufa market. CDH a solid #3 , reportedly wanted $5m per on a long-term extension.
Isles have a bunch of cheap kids pushing for roster spots from the AHL and are gonna let CDH walk.
With the cap rising, some team is gonna overpay him.

Yeah I don't want any part of either of them.

lol just saw Malcolm Subban's numbers so far this year. Why does that always happen to us? hilarious.

Because our GM is a moron when it comes to NHL level transactions.

 

[Don Cherry]

If that's the direction they go in, then fine. I fear they're going to try to do too many things at once, instead of picking a direction and sticking with it. It won't surprise me one bit to see them waste picks on a stupid rental at the deadline.


Yeah I don't want any part of either of them.


Because our GM is a moron when it comes to NHL level transactions.

I have to agree with each of your points.

 

[lucic27]

Belesky and Sponner and Vatrano for Brett Richie Dallas Star Power Foward 6 ft 3 215 lbs right wing natural

My line up : Marchand Bergeron Pastrnak
Debrusk Kreci Ritchie ( Ritchie protect Kreci and Debrusk ) very good player
Heinen Nash Backes
Schaller Kuraly Bjork

Chara McAvoy Krug Carlo Grzelcyk Miller

Mcquaid Cehlarik and Acciari

Rask kudo

 

[Bruin4Life]

We have a trade thread so this will be moved there. Belesky has negative value and will see boston eat up majority of the contract. Spooner is a RFA and sucks 5 on 5. I doubt Stars do this