Looked better than Kizer.I guess? They could have taken Watson, or they could have Peppers and a probable top 10 pick in 2018 in addition to their choice of QB or whoever else at #1 overall. Watson had a few very good games, mostly against terrible defenses, but Robert Griffin was good once too.
Again, Watson isn't the last good QB that will ever be drafted.
Looked better than Kizer.
What the hell was Brown waiting for? Wentz or Watson are looking pretty good about now.
Looked better than Kizer.
What the hell was Brown waiting for? Wentz or Watson are looking pretty good about now.
Don’t put too much into the Hue thing. He could be fired as early as week three next season if his team shows no growth. I think keeping Hue is entirely about wanting to maintain some organizational stability and not look like they are a complete mess. The thing to keep an eye on is if they force Hue to add an offensive coordinator.That's a solid hire.
I am surprised they were able to get someone like Dorsey especially if he is forced to keep Hue around.
What Hue did or didn't want is immaterial. I think Brown and DePodesta got too full of themselves and because of some superficial analysis came to the conclusion that they could find a QB just as easy in the 2nd round.You actually believe the nonsense that Hue wanted those QB's and Brown wouldn't take them?
Is Brown Bert2Nazzy? He can get a QB like that. A QB that's hot.Maybe they incorrectly thought otherwise. Maybe they didn't think they'd be worth the picks they'd get in return. It's easy to have hindsight. For the third time, neither player is the last good quarterback that will ever be drafted. The more tickets you have, the more chances you're gonna have to not miss.
Is Brown Bert2Nazzy? He can get a QB like that. A QB that's hot.
They didn't get a QB and had a couple of great chances. The Titans got it right drafted their QB first and then traded down the next year. Didn't create a three year master plan to finally get one.
I guess? They could have taken Watson, or they could have Peppers and a probable top 10 pick in 2018 in addition to their choice of QB or whoever else at #1 overall. Watson had a few very good games, mostly against terrible defenses, but Robert Griffin was good once too.
Again, Watson isn't the last good QB that will ever be drafted.
Are you inferring that this guy jerks it while looking over a stat sheet?How about being so negligent they didn't get the paperwork in on time for the McCarron trade? A trade that looked like a naked attempt to cover their ass for not getting a QB anyway?
Not like being a player on the worst team of the decade is much of a success anyway. How many of these guys are actual contributors and how many are just placeholders?
I know being a stat whacker means never having to say you're sorry.
An apt metaphor for Brown's reign as GM.Are you inferring that this guy jerks it while looking over a stat sheet?
And two "great" drafts got the all of one win.2016: Man, how could the Browns possibly pass on Wentz?!
2017: Man, how could the Browns possibly pass on Watson?!
2018: ...
I'm sure you will insert some sort of sarcastic remark without refuting anything I've said. Again.
And two "great" drafts got the all of one win.
Maybe they should have run the three year plan past Halsam first.
I see “stat whacker” littered around this website. I’m genuinely wondering if that’s what you’re all inferring.An apt metaphor for Brown's reign as GM.
I'm also sure his next job as misunderstood genius to the analytics community begins today. DePo will scamper back to baseball with his reputation intact.
But someone got fired. Isn’t that your jam?Browns doing dumb things as usual
Hue Jackson is horrible coach and should be out door
Hope they got 0-16 next season
Not literally... until the formality of a Funky Spider-Man victim found with a copy of Moneyball makes the news.I see “stat whacker” littered around this website. I’m genuinely wondering if that’s what you’re all inferring.
You sound like a man who went and looked up his Wikipedia and decided you disagreed. If you count punching calculators and running to Wawa as 'worked in the front office with Reid' then, yes, he was there for 10 years.
He was hired as an intern out of college with no football background and worked up the front office chain, until he got control over the scouting department - having never done any scouting - and then decided to make himself a scout. The door to control over personnel came to him when Andy's kids started getting in trouble and Jeff Lurie had to start delegating power. Apart from the year Chip demanded full control or he was going to quit, the only thing Howie didn't have until last year was control over the final 53.
Some people are REALLY proud of their ignorance.
And are of limited effectiveness, hence Exhibut A. It's like the Baltimore PD and Robert McNammara had a baby.Again, you're incredibly naive if you think analytics guys of some sort aren't in every front office in sports.
And are of limited effectiveness, hence Exhibut A. It's like the Baltimore PD and Robert McNammara had a baby.
In addition it's given rise to an insufferable class of armchair sabermaticians and revisionist historians.
I understand it's fed plenty of egos and have yet to see how it revolutionized anything inside the game.Arrogant, condescending, and dumb. You're really the worst kind of combination among people who rail against things they don't understand.