B-Sens Belleville 2017-2018 Season

[Sens of Anarchy]

Anybody know this guy? Interesting how often this team is going to players who have played in the Q to get players. I wonder how much that has to do with GB?

Belleville signs Melancon to PTO – Belleville Senators

T.J. Melancon hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

He was on the list of attendees at the Sens 2017 Dev camp

ICE CHIPS: Lee said defenceman T.J. Melancon, a camp invitee from Ottawa, was on the Senators “radar.” Melancon scored 19 goals and 45 points with Blainville-Boisbriand Armada of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League last season

Melancon, 21, joins Norfolk after attending training camp with the Milwaukee Admirals. The 6’2”, 210 lb defenseman spent three seasons with Blainville-Boisbriand Armada (QMJHL) recording 99 points (29g, 70a) in 200 games. The Ottawa, ON native led all QMJHL defensemen in goals during the 2016-17 season with 19.

A bit more background on him in french Repêché en Ontario, TJ Melancon fait sa niche au Québec

 

[Icelevel]

Anybody know this guy? Interesting how often this team is going to players who have played in the Q to get players. I wonder how much that has to do with GB?

Belleville signs Melancon to PTO – Belleville Senators

T.J. Melancon hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

Well he's from ottawa. Sign him up

 

[aragorn]

He was on the list of attendees at the Sens 2017 Dev camp

A bit more background on him in french Repêché en Ontario, TJ Melancon fait sa niche au Québec

He seems to have some size & scored a bit in junior but I have zero recollection of him from camp.

 

[Peredasse]

A little digression on Belleville: coach Kurt Kleinendorst’s management of the lineup has reached the point of being fireable. In what’s supposed to be a development league, we’ve seen stunts pulled such as playing Francis Perron on the 4th line, and Colin White deployed in the bottom six next to veteran anchors Mike Blunden and Chris Kelly. This is the type of mismanagement that ruins a prospect, and with the B-Sens sitting in the league’s basement yet again (11-14-3, 5th last), it’s time to see an overhaul of management, including both Kleinendorst and Randy Lee.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

A little digression on Belleville: coach Kurt Kleinendorst’s management of the lineup has reached the point of being fireable. In what’s supposed to be a development league, we’ve seen stunts pulled such as playing Francis Perron on the 4th line, and Colin White deployed in the bottom six next to veteran anchors Mike Blunden and Chris Kelly. This is the type of mismanagement that ruins a prospect, and with the B-Sens sitting in the league’s basement yet again (11-14-3, 5th last), it’s time to see an overhaul of management, including both Kleinendorst and Randy Lee.

Some of the decisions that are made are make you wonder.. You play offensive players with players that have a hard time taking or making a pass.. are grind and crash specialists and then wonder why they aren't developing.. You want Perron to play dump and chase , to go grind it out , come up with possession then pass it to a line mate where it bounces off his stick and possession is lost ... back check, out dump in , off. Fun. What are they trying to do turn these guys into Max McCormick?

 

[ZekeA]

2017-12-18
Ben Harpur (D)
Belleville DEL
Recalled from loan by
Ottawa (NHL)

 

[ZekeA]

2017-12-18
Chris Kelly (C)
Belleville DEL
Released from PTO

 

[Micklebot]

2017-12-18
Ben Harpur (D)
Belleville DEL
Recalled from loan by
Ottawa (NHL)

I was expecting a call up given Dumont is injured, but as much as I like Harpur's game, Chabot better not come out for him...

 

[Samboni]

2017-12-18
Chris Kelly (C)
Belleville DEL
Released from PTO

Thanks for sharing. End of the line for Chris I guess.

 

[ZekeA]

Thanks for sharing. End of the line for Chris I guess.

"Samboni":

Does not look good for him perhaps he could try with another AHL team or in some league in Euope.........

 

[Sensinitis]

9 games and 0 points for Kels.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Kelly should just jump into coaching. He seems like the kind of guy who'd be a good assistant coach.

 

[Icelevel]

Thanks for sharing. End of the line for Chris I guess.

May have been a gateway into ottawa management/coaching

 

[OD99]

Yeah they should have kept chiasson for the bottom 6. But maybe his salary expectations and the organizations output expectations caused a big enough problem that he couldn't settle in there...

I think it was all about Spezza...they hoped he would build on his rookie year and become a core member of the squad. When they realized he was just an average joe he seemed worse due to expectations and see ya later...

 

[aragorn]

Some of the decisions that are made are make you wonder.. You play offensive players with players that have a hard time taking or making a pass.. are grind and crash specialists and then wonder why they aren't developing.. You want Perron to play dump and chase , to go grind it out , come up with possession then pass it to a line mate where it bounces off his stick and possession is lost ... back check, out dump in , off. Fun. What are they trying to do turn these guys into Max McCormick?

It often seems like this org or IMO more likely this coach continues to try & force round pegs into square holes. Rather than develop a system to fit the players they have in the organization, he seems to be forcing the players to fit his system on both the NHL & AHL teams with a little success but not enough to warrant the move IMO. If the team was near the top of the NHL & in a playoff position it would be hard to argue against him & his system but both teams are out of a playoff position with a very steep uphill climb to get back into it. I can't seem to decide who is the biggest problem in this org, the owner or the coach.

BTW Max McCormick has had a pretty good AHL career to this point given his skill set & he is only two pts from the team lead. While Belleville doesn't have a couple of guys who are miles ahead of anyone else in terms of skill set, you have to say that the scoring is pretty much spread out among most of the team. There are 17 guys who have from 6 to 15 pts on Belleville which isn't that great of a difference. Maybe there are more grinders than scorers afterall, but they do need to let Perron wheel a little more while still being defensively aware. Almost seems like the same problem many of the coaches have had with Hoffman early on & sometimes continue to. Could also be that Belleville doesn't have a playmaker to get him the puck in scoring positions. They should consider bringing SDC back to NA.

 

[MaxTheLimit]

BTW Max McCormick has had a pretty good AHL career to this point given his skill set & he is only two pts from the team lead. While Belleville doesn't have a couple of guys who are miles ahead of anyone else in terms of skill set, you have to say that the scoring is pretty much spread out among most of the team.

McCormick has been roughly 0.5pts/g over the past 3 years. That's not terrible, but it's not great either. My problem has been that he is producing like a depth guy while playing top line minutes. He had been on the top PP unit for the longest time, while really struggling to find a way to produce. Yes, guys like Perron, Gagne, and Chlapik aren't miles ahead in points, but they ARE miles behind in ice time.

Sadly, that stat isn't tracked well, but you can see it at the games. The points per minute among all three of those players per time on ice is far ahead of McCormick. There's no evidence that McCormick is anything more than a depth grinder. That's fine. The team does need the sorta thing in the AHL. The problem is he isn't being played like a depth grinder. He's being played like a top line forward. That's just not who is he, and I find it puzzling that the coaching staff don't see that. There's several players out there who could also be mentioned, who also seem to be overplayed and miscast, but McCormick is the obvious one. You see it every game.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

It often seems like this org or IMO more likely this coach continues to try & force round pegs into square holes. Rather than develop a system to fit the players they have in the organization, he seems to be forcing the players to fit his system on both the NHL & AHL teams with a little success but not enough to warrant the move IMO. If the team was near the top of the NHL & in a playoff position it would be hard to argue against him & his system but both teams are out of a playoff position with a very steep uphill climb to get back into it. I can't seem to decide who is the biggest problem in this org, the owner or the coach.

BTW Max McCormick has had a pretty good AHL career to this point given his skill set & he is only two pts from the team lead. While Belleville doesn't have a couple of guys who are miles ahead of anyone else in terms of skill set, you have to say that the scoring is pretty much spread out among most of the team. There are 17 guys who have from 6 to 15 pts on Belleville which isn't that great of a difference. Maybe there are more grinders than scorers afterall, but they do need to let Perron wheel a little more while still being defensively aware. Almost seems like the same problem many of the coaches have had with Hoffman early on & sometimes continue to. Could also be that Belleville doesn't have a playmaker to get him the puck in scoring positions. They should consider bringing SDC back to NA.

It wasn't a knock on McCormick... he is just an example

 

[Sensinitis]

It often seems like this org or IMO more likely this coach continues to try & force round pegs into square holes.

[MOD]

The expression is actually "to knock a square peg in a round hole".

I'm just sharing this because I was visualizing a round peg in a square hole, and it would actually fit haha.

 

[Sensinitis]

On another note, Chlapik is having himself a very solid rookie year in the A.

Tied for the team lead in points with JOB and Gagne.

 

[Korpse]

On another note, Chlapik is having himself a very solid rookie year in the A.

Tied for the team lead in points with JOB and Gagne.

He's been great every time I've watched. Can see him being having a bigger impact at the NHL level than White. Really big fan of his and Jaros as well.

 

[Uchiha]

May have been a gateway into ottawa management/coaching

Hell no. Does Luke Richardson and Jason Smith ring a bell?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He's been great every time I've watched. Can see him being having a bigger impact at the NHL level than White. Really big fan of his and Jaros as well.

Chlapik is .56 pts/g White .53 pts/g .. I would like them to play together with Perron and see what they can do .. given a regular top 6 shift.

 

[God Says No]

Chlapik is .56 pts/g White .53 pts/g .. I would like them to play together with Perron and see what they can do .. given a regular top 6 shift.

That would be a sweet line.

 

[Viletho]

Chlapik is .56 pts/g White .53 pts/g .. I would like them to play together with Perron and see what they can do .. given a regular top 6 shift.

Gagne is right or lect handed? Because Chlapik and White seems to be good buddy from White instagram. And he posted some semi video with Gagne and Perron too. Chemistry outside the ice can be important for the on ice.

R: Chlapik -White - Gagne
L: Gagne-Chlapik-White

 

[ZekeA]

2017-12-20
Daniel Ciampini (LW)
Belleville ADD
Recalled from loan to Brampton (ECHL)