There is no way to quantify pride. There is no metric for how pissed off and wanting to show up a former team can motivate someone, or how a players friends will try harder to one-up their friends former team.
And there is nothing to measure the Panthers giving away 2/3rds of a first line for free.
When I'm angry about the lack of capital Murray left us with.... I look at what Bergevin has done in Montreal, and it gives me comfort.
The Subban and Sergachev trades are franchise destroyers that all of Murray's failures pale in comparison to.
And that's not even counting the small trade fails (Pateryn for Jordie Benn, two 2nds for Andrew Shaw, etc)
It's a shame -- BUF/MTL are two great hockey cities.
When the Price contract doesn't even make the list, you know he's in the running for worst GM in a generation. Worst since Milbury imo.
It's a shame -- BUF/MTL are two great hockey cities.
If they can just get it to 30 teams we’ve got a fighting chance.
Garth Snow is in that league, and Ed Johnson (AKA: The Man Who Ruined My Childhood) was a million times worse than either. Don't believe me? Did the Islanders move to Alabama and I missed it?Milbury is in a league of his own.
Garth Snow is in that league, and Ed Johnson (AKA: The Man Who Ruined My Childhood) was a million times worse than either. Don't believe me? Did the Islanders move to Alabama and I missed it?
The man who murdered my Whalers. To quote Ray Ferraro "Ed told us he was going to build a cup winning team, he just didn't tell us it would be the Penguins".Garth Snow isn't even on the same planet as Milbury.... and I think Garth Snow has done a very poor job.
Ed Johnson?
The man who murdered my Whalers. To quote Ray Ferraro "Ed told us he was going to build a cup winning team, he just didn't tell us it would be the Penguins".
As for Mad Mike and Garth: the main difference is Mike started with nothing and ended up building nothing. Garth basically was handed a franchise level player among other assets and failed miserably to build around him. If said franchise player walks this off-season he absolutely leapfroggs Mad Mike in the all time horrible executive list.
Garth Snow is in that league, and Ed Johnson (AKA: The Man Who Ruined My Childhood) was a million times worse than either. Don't believe me? Did the Islanders move to Alabama and I missed it?
Milbury once had arbitration with Tommy Salo, a quality young goalie at the time.
He proceeded to destroy the kid to his face to save a few hundred thousand bucks, maybe, for a year.
The King, Mike Milbury.
Another candidate for the Milbury List: Peter Chiarelli. His top 3 awful trades: Tyler Seguin for Loui Ericcson, Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson and Matt Barzal and Anthony Beauvilier for Griffin Reinhart. Also managing a team with a player who has a very good chance to end up the greatest ever into being a dumpster fire.Milbury probably has 3 of the worst trades in NHL history and 2 of the worst contracts in NHL history.
If there were a top 20 of dumbest GM decisions in history.... Milbury lands at least 5 of those spots...
When you own 25% of the dumbest things ever done by an NHL GM, and have no accomplishments to speak of... you are untouchable. lol
Another candidate for the Milbury List: Peter Chiarelli. His top 3 awful trades: Tyler Seguin for Loui Ericcson, Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson and Matt Barzal and Anthony Beauvilier for Griffin Reinhart. Also managing a team with a player who has a very good chance to end up the greatest ever into being a dumpster fire.
And speaking of stupid goalie tricks: last year Garth exiled Jaro to the AHL which left the team with Greiss and JF Berube, who in no way belonged in the NHL. The result is that Greiss was worked to death because even Doug Weight wasn't crazy enough to start Berube in a game. Naturally Greisse's play nosedive from overuse. The team ended up missing the playoffs... by a single point.
Those are great examples of GM’s (and there are others) who are at the top of the list of “the worst GM in sports history”
Which is why I and others pay no attention to the “Murray was by far the worst GM everrrrrrr!!!” opinions.
Murray had his warts for sure. But the hyperbole and mad rantings doesn’t magically make him the worst everrrr.
If you look at things objectively Murray's most colossal yet underrated blunder was ending the tank after Eichel. If he kept it going we easily finish dead last again and as it developed we end up with Matthews. Then we'd have been in business.Those are great examples of GM’s (and there are others) who are at the top of the list of “the worst GM in sports history”
Which is why I and others pay no attention to the “Murray was by far the worst GM everrrrrrr!!!” opinions.
Murray had his warts for sure. But the hyperbole and mad rantings doesn’t magically make him the worst everrrr.
If you look at things objectively Murray's most colossal yet underrated blunder was ending the tank after Eichel. If he kept it going we easily finish dead last again and as it developed we end up with Matthews. Then we'd have been in business.
Murray would’ve had to trade Eichel/the pick for garbage to even get in the conversation