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[Jarnberg]

The Jets were already a tough team to play against and they look like they got better on paper now and picked up some good prospects.

They easily look like a team who could beat the Preds in a 7 game series.

 

[Infinite Jest]

The Jets were already a tough team to play against and they look like they got better on paper now and picked up some good prospects.

They easily look like a team who could beat the Preds in a 7 game series.

I keep seeing people say this, but could someone please explain to me how they clearly got better? Tyler Myers isn't nearly as physical, nor as good defensively as Bogosian, though he is better offensively. Myers for Bogo is a wash at best for the Jets. Is Drew Stafford really someone we need to fear? I don't see it.

 

[predfan24]

Except one. Size!

Forsberg, Neal, Beck, Goose, Nystrom all guys with size. Fisher has freakish strength.

Detroit Red Wings, Chicago Blackhawks were very successful without big physical teams...........size is great when paired with playing ability but playing ability trumps size every day of the week.

 

[predfan24]

I keep seeing people say this, but could someone please explain to me how they clearly got better? Tyler Myers isn't nearly as physical, nor as good defensively as Bogosian, though he is better offensively. Myers for Bogo is a wash at best for the Jets. Is Drew Stafford really someone we need to fear? I don't see it.

I think for this season it's a win for the Jets because Kane is out for the season anyway and Stafford is playing but long term we won't know who won this trade for a few years.

 

[Infinite Jest]

I think for this season it's a win for the Jets because Kane is out for the season anyway and Stafford is playing but long term we won't know who won this trade for a few years.

Sure, Stafford is a slight upgrade, but he's not the player he used to be, he's a 3rd liner. I just don't see why the Jets are a team to fear all of the sudden.

 

[triggrman]

Forsberg, Neal, Beck, Goose, Nystrom all guys with size. Fisher has freakish strength.

Detroit Red Wings, Chicago Blackhawks were very successful without big physical teams...........size is great when paired with playing ability but playing ability trumps size every day of the week.

That Wilson guy is pretty big too.

 

[NSH615]

Forsberg, Neal, Beck, Goose, Nystrom all guys with size. Fisher has freakish strength.

Detroit Red Wings, Chicago Blackhawks were very successful without big physical teams...........size is great when paired with playing ability but playing ability trumps size every day of the week.

Forsberg does not have size. He gets pushed around quite often. LA manhandled him in all 3 games.

 

[triggrman]

Forsberg does not have size. He gets pushed around quite often. LA manhandled him in all 3 games.

Totally disagree here, not many on our team are stronger on the puck than Forsberg, it's one of his biggest assets.

 

[NSH615]

Totally disagree here, not many on our team are stronger on the puck than Forsberg, it's one of his biggest assets.

He may be strong on the puck, but he is also small, he gets knocked around by the bigger teams such as LA easily. That is why I want Neal back on that top line, Smith makes it smaller.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Totally disagree here, not many on our team are stronger on the puck than Forsberg, it's one of his biggest assets.

It's true, though Preds33 is also accurate that he was kept physically in check pretty easily by the Kings.

 

[triggrman]

It's true, though Preds33 is also accurate that he was kept physically in check pretty easily by the Kings.

Fair enough.

 

[Privy]

Antoine Roussel (DAL) suspended two games for cross checking Adam McQuaid (BOS) in the throat.

 

[Infinite Jest]

Forsberg does not have size. He gets pushed around quite often. LA manhandled him in all 3 games.

We've only played LA twice. I'd have to go back and re-watch the earlier game, but I certainly don't remember him being "manhandled" in the January game, I thought he played fine.

 

[triggrman]

Antoine Roussel (DAL) suspended two games for cross checking Adam McQuaid (BOS) in the throat.

Not long enough, IMHO.

 

[Privy]

Not long enough, IMHO.

Agreed. Roussel doesn't belong in the NHL.

 

[NSH615]

We've only played LA twice. I'd have to go back and re-watch the earlier game, but I certainly don't remember him being "manhandled" in the January game, I thought he played fine.

I got this year and last year mixed up as far as the schedule goes. Last year we were done with them by the end of December.

 

[token grinder]

Winnepeg is worse now than when we played them last.

Bogosian is a better defenceman than myers
Kane is a better forward thn stafford.

 

[Dave is a killer]

Winnepeg is worse now than when we played them last.

Bogosian is a better defenceman than myers
Kane is a better forward thn stafford.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Soundgarden]

Winnepeg is worse now than when we played them last.

Bogosian is a better defenceman than myers
Kane is a better forward thn stafford.

But Stafford will play for them during this spring and Kane's been a problem over and over again. The slight downgrade from Bogo to Myers, if there even is one, is negated by the warm body they get back in Stafford.

 

[PredsV82]

Getting no help from anyone else tonight. Gotta win or we lose ground to the Blues and Ducks

 

[drwpreds]

Getting no help from anyone else tonight. Gotta win or we lose ground to the Blues and Ducks

Yep- thanks for nothing Tampa- they laid a big fat egg tonight....

At least we won- now 10 up on Chicago....

 

[INDhockeyfan]

Hawks are thanking us for winning in regulation. Jets have played 3 more games then their competition for the wildcard. The Calgary/LA game is huge game. Flames win and they go into 3rd in the pacific. Kings have to win to make up ground.

 

[bdub24]

Yep- thanks for nothing Tampa- they laid a big fat egg tonight....

At least we won- now 10 up on Chicago....

I think we gave Tampa a complex...

 

[deanwormer]

The Jets were already a tough team to play against and they look like they got better on paper now and picked up some good prospects.

They easily look like a team who could beat the Preds in a 7 game series.

They might be better, but they are a team the Preds take down 4-1 in a series. They simply don't have enough O. For all the "scary" talk of Barts/Bit out there, they really only had 1 or 2 truly terrible shifts - the other night against TB, they probably only had one truly good shift. The difference wasn't so much in how they played as much as the talent level they played against. If we can role a pair of 7th dmen out there and give up one or two ugly chances that's pretty much telling you everything you need to know about the opponents O.

 

[predfan24]

He may be strong on the puck, but he is also small, he gets knocked around by the bigger teams such as LA easily. That is why I want Neal back on that top line, Smith makes it smaller.

Your point on size is taken and the truth but really size isn't as important as "hockey strength" as Trig pointed out. Forsberg plays with man strength and is one of the strongest players along the wall and protecting the puck on this team. Take for example Goose or Nystrom who are bigger in lbs than Forsberg but much weaker on the puck.